I would choose a deck where you could turn your otherwise disadvantage into an advantage:
- If you loose moxen and lotus run main board Stony Silence to punish those who do (and that will mess with both Shops and various storm variants too)
- Without fast mana you potentially loose the ability to play many spells in the same (and early) rounds. Punish other decks that thrive on doing that - I'd go with a Human based deck where you have access hatebears that tick that box. If you mix with Spirits you have access to Thalia, Spirit of the Labyrinth, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Eidolon of the Great Reveal, etc., etc.
Humans are still vulnerable to storm so I typically run Spirit Guides that can help get that bear on the board in your first round. They can double as a stick later in the game.
I am by no means a rules expert, but doesn't the 'instead' make this a Replacement effect? So even if you managed to copy/clone/whatever this spell, then you loosing would be replaced with drawing 7 and setting life to 1, and hence not triggering the rest of the copies?
It is not uncommon to run two different creature types in a Cavern of Souls deck. I would want to try it in a Human-Cleric build. I think it looks strong enough to justify to test in a build a build like that with 4x Wasteland, 1x Strip Mine and then 2-4x Qhost Quarter, but only testing will tell if it is strong enough of course.
Many of the White Wheenie decks I have been playing you would name Cleric anyway if you had a Leonin Relic-Warder on hand along with various humans that were also Clerics in addition to Humans.
The list of Clerics that have seen regular play is decent, and most are humans (and all white if you want to go White-Green):
- Containment Priest
- Leonin Relic-Warder
- Sanctum Prelate
- Leonin Arbiter
- True Beliver
- Fiend Hunter
And even more see fringe play, also with a lot of humans among them (also White):
- War Priest of Thune
- Grand Abolisher
- Selfless Spirit
- Mother of Runes,
- Ethersworn canonist
And some not all White:
- Sin Collector
- High Priest of Penance
- Geist of Saint Traft
- Harsh Mentor
As a PO player I would much rather see spirit than kambal. Spirit is an annoyance. Kambal is a game loss in almost every iteration of PO deck I've built from a turbo tezz build to mentor to bomberman. I either have an answer in hand or I lose.
+1, I would expect that much! I would also much rather stick a Kambal than a Spirit of the Labyrinth when I play against PO (or other blue decks for that matter) I run both in my build, but before PO was released, I found that Spirit of the Labyrinth was declining in power level, and was sometimes even a liability with all the Dack Fayden's running around.
I picked up Hatebears twice in MTGO dailies in the past two weeks, going 3-1 both times. [...]
Congratz! I was about to ask how it performs against vehicles, but I can see on Mtggoldfish that vehicles came out on top at least in one of the dailies How do you find that match-up in general?
I have upped my Spirit Guide count at the expense of Moxen, and now run Stony Silence and Kataki main. I have Mayors in the sideboard as I often lost to Tangle Wire and Smokestack. My build is ~50-50% humans and Spirits. I might follow your example with Revoker instead of the Spirit of the Labyrinth I'm running now (they became decent again with everybody playing Paradoxical Outcome when that came out)
I run 3 Kambal main and haven't looked back since. That card is so strong IMO!
I believe this is supposed to happen "mid-November" according to WOTC. So probably after the update on the 15th.
Thanks, can you remember the source or where I/we could read up on this?
Luckily none of the CN2 cards are extremely relevant right now; they weren't in the top lists at champs.
I don't see their absence from the champs leading to any final conclusion about their playability. I don't think the format is anywhere close to being 'solved' by now, and would expect several of the cards making appearances in the time to come.