It is possible that Vintage suffers a little from the lack of nuances in the category of good counter/destroy spells making the strategies a little stale.
I think one of the card with the most nuances & subtilities (ie: interactive) in that category might be Mindbreak Trap:
- Its free-to-cast condition means it challenges both players playskills & deckbuilding
- It exiles rather than counter, introducing another layer in a universe full of counterwars, recurring spells, delving, ...
- It is still playable mid & late game under its full casting cost
- It can be easily interacted with (no storm, no spilt second, ...)
So the counterargument is probably to say that if a card has too many nuances/conditions then it has been too balanced by R&D so probably not Vintage/Powerful enough. I’m more to say that R&D doesn’t like printing too many of these cards because it makes the game complicated/hard for new players. For us, not having access to such cards make the game stale & the strategies limited
@covetousrat, I’m really surprised WoTC dont specify English as their primary platform to advertise their Eternal WE to wider community. Japanese coverage, decklists and live commentary...
That card looks like a one off Tinker target in Grixis Thieves deck. Some play Wheel of Fortune for extra style and winning. If you don't want to win (or play Jar instead), play this. It also happens that this new jewel is also a good mana sink for colorless Mana Drain which Thieves also runs and you can now convert all that colorlessness into spicy colours.
And I guess you can always steal it back with Dack!! not.
Quite like the saccing ability as it gives you an out to Dack Fayden stealing your wincons (read : Blightsteel, TVault...) in a similar fashion than what Ravager offers to Shop.
Also give you an out to STP removing your Colossus from the game by instead reshuffling it back into the deck.
http://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=19417&d=323770&f=VI
1st – Phillip Nicholson – Dredge
1 Flame-Kin Zealot
4 Bloodghast
1 Ashen Rider
1 Dakmor Salvage
1 Mana Confluence
4 City of Brass
4 Undiscovered Paradise
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Serum Powder
4 Leyline of The Void
3 Dread Return
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Bridge from Below
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Narcomoeba
4 Ichorid
3 Golgari Thug
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
2 Fate Stitcher
Sideboard
4 Nature’s Claim
4 Ingot Chewer
4 Hollow One
3 Gurmag Angler
2nd – Thomas Ribet – 4C Control
3 Containment Priest
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Monastery Mentor
1 Kambal, Consul of Allocation
3 Dack Fayden
1 Jace, The Mindsculptor
3 Force of Will
3 Swords to Plowshares
3 Mental Misstep
2 Pyroblast
1 Flusterstorm
1 Abrade
3 Preordain
1 Gitaxian Probe
1 Dig Through Time
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Time Walk
1 Ponder
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Demonic Tutor
2 Underground Sea
3 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
1 Island
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Strip Mine
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Sol Ring
Sideboard
2 Rest in Peace
1 Pithing Needle
1 Tinker
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Notion Thief
1 Kambal, Consul of Allocation
1 Flusterstorm
2 Stony Silence
2 By Force
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Abrade
1 Swords to Plowshares
3rd/4th – Jared Alsop – Landstill
1 Disenchant
1 Moat
1 Stony Silence
3 Swords to Plowshares
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Dig Through Time
1 Flusterstorm
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
3 Mental Misstep
2 Mindbreak Trap
1 Spell Snare
3 Standstill
1 Time Walk
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Black Lotus
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
2 Jace, The Mindsculptor
1 Karn, Scion of Urza
2 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
3 Mishra’s Factory
4 Flooded Strand
2 Island
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Plains
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Strip Mine
4 Tundra
3 Wasteland
Sideboard
2 Containment Priest
1 Disenchant
2 Energy Flux
1 Flusterstorm
2 Grafdigger’s Cage
1 Path to Exile
2 Rest in Peace
1 Stony Silence
1 Swords to Plowshares
2 Tormod’s Crypt
3rd/4th – Nicholas Fennell – MUD
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
4 Mishra’s Factory
4 Mishra’s Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Wasteland
4 Arcbound Ravager
3 Chief of the Foundry
4 Foundry Inspector
3 Hangarback Walker
4 Phyrexian Revoker
4 Steel Overseer
4 Walking Ballista
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Sol ring
4 Sphere of Resistance
1 Trinisphere
1 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Traxos, Scourge of Kroog
1 Mana Crypt
Sideboard
1 Dismember
4 Grafdigger’s Cage
3 Null Rod
3 Precursor Golem
1 Tormod’s Crypt
3 Sorcerous Spyglass
5th-8th – Thomas Sellitto – UR Delver
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Young Pyromancer
1 Snapcaster Mage
4 Force of Will
4 LIghtning Bolt
4 Mental MIsstep
4 Preordain
4 Daze
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Gitaxian Probe
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Time Walk
1 Gush
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Dig Through Time
2 Null Rod
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Flooded Strand
4 Wasteland
3 Volcanic Island
2 Island
1 Strip Mine
Sideboard
3 Grafdigger’s Cage
4 Pyroblast
2 Null Rod
2 Ravenous Trap
1 Mountain
1 Sudden Shock
1 By Force
1 Flusterstorm
5th-8th – Jacob Dunn – Grixis Control
4 Dark Confidant
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Myr Battlesphere
4 Force oF Will
2 Mana Drain
2 Spell Pierce
2 Mental Misstep
3 Lightning Bolt
1 Time Walk
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
3 Jace, The Mindsculptor
4 Polluted Delta
3 Scalding Tarn
2 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
1 Island
1 Swamp
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Sol Ring
Lotus Petal
Mana Crypt
Time Vault
Voltaic Key
Sideboard
4 Yixlid Jailer
4 Ingot Chewer
4 grafdigger’s Cage
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Strip Mine
1 Mountain
5th-8th – James Dowling – Landstill
2 Faerie Conclave
4 Flooded Strand
2 Island
1 Karakas
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Plains
2 Scalding Tarn
1 Strip Mine
4 Tundra
3 Wasteland
2 Jace, The Mindsculptor
1 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Dig Through Time
1 Disenchant
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
3 Mental Misstep
2 Mindbreak Trap
2 Spell Snare
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Moat
3 Standstill
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Spell Queller
1 Black Lotus
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
Sideboard
4 Containment Priest
1 Disenchant
2 Energy Flux
2 Flusterstorm
2 Fragmentize
2 Path to Exile
2 Pithing Needle
5th-8th – Luke McCoy – Dredge
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Bloodghast
4 Bridge from Below
1 Cabal Pit
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Dakmor Salvage
1 Dragonlord Kolaghan
2 Dread Return
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
2 Golgari Thug
4 Hollow One
2 Ichorid
1 Ingot Chewer
4 Mana Confluence
4 Narcomoeba
2 Petrified Field
4 Serum Powder
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Undiscovered Paradise
1 Wispmare
1 Fatestitcher
Sideboard
2 Abrupt Decay
3 Gurmag Angler
2 Ingot Chewer
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Nature’s Claim
Metagame Breakdown (sanctionned)
5 Dredge
5 Oath of Druids (2 Inferno, 1 Muldrotha, 1 Demon Oath, 1 Punishing)
4 Delver (3 UR, 1 RUG)
3 Landstill
3 MUD
3 Unpowered Eldrazi (2 colourless, 1 white)
2 Grixis Control
2 Paradoixal Mentor
1 4C Control
1 4C Hatebears
1 Channel Mirror
1 Bomberman
1 Modern Mill feat force of will
1 Mono R Prison
1 Mono U Control
1 The Wheel (Esper Control)
Metagame Breakdown (sanctioned):
5 Dredge
5 Oath of Druids (2 Inferno, 1 Muldrotha, 1 Demon Oath, 1 Punishing)
4 Delver (3 UR, 1 RUG)
3 Landstill
3 MUD
3 Unpowered Eldrazi (2 colourless, 1 white)
2 Grixis Control
2 Paradoixal Mentor
1 4C Control
1 4C Hatebears
1 Channel Mirror
1 Bomberman
1 Modern Mill feat force of will
1 Mono R Prison
1 Mono U Control
1 The Wheel (Esper Control)
1st – Phillip Nicholson – Dredge
1 Flame-Kin Zealot
4 Bloodghast
1 Ashen Rider
1 Dakmor Salvage
1 Mana Confluence
4 City of Brass
4 Undiscovered Paradise
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Serum Powder
4 Leyline of The Void
3 Dread Return
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Bridge from Below
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Narcomoeba
4 Ichorid
3 Golgari Thug
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
2 Fate Stitcher
Sideboard
4 Nature’s Claim
4 Ingot Chewer
4 Hollow One
3 Gurmag Angler
2nd – Thomas Ribet – 4C Control
3 Containment Priest
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Monastery Mentor
1 Kambal, Consul of Allocation
3 Dack Fayden
1 Jace, The Mindsculptor
3 Force of Will
3 Swords to Plowshares
3 Mental Misstep
2 Pyroblast
1 Flusterstorm
1 Abrade
3 Preordain
1 Gitaxian Probe
1 Dig Through Time
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Time Walk
1 Ponder
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Demonic Tutor
2 Underground Sea
3 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
1 Island
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Strip Mine
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Sol Ring
Sideboard
2 Rest in Peace
1 Pithing Needle
1 Tinker
1 Sphinx of the Steel Wind
1 Notion Thief
1 Kambal, Consul of Allocation
1 Flusterstorm
2 Stony Silence
2 By Force
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
1 Abrade
1 Swords to Plowshares
3rd/4th – Jared Alsop – Landstill
1 Disenchant
1 Moat
1 Stony Silence
3 Swords to Plowshares
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Dig Through Time
1 Flusterstorm
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
3 Mental Misstep
2 Mindbreak Trap
1 Spell Snare
3 Standstill
1 Time Walk
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Black Lotus
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
2 Jace, The Mindsculptor
1 Karn, Scion of Urza
2 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
3 Mishra’s Factory
4 Flooded Strand
2 Island
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Plains
1 Polluted Delta
1 Scalding Tarn
1 Strip Mine
4 Tundra
3 Wasteland
Sideboard
2 Containment Priest
1 Disenchant
2 Energy Flux
1 Flusterstorm
2 Grafdigger’s Cage
1 Path to Exile
2 Rest in Peace
1 Stony Silence
1 Swords to Plowshares
2 Tormod’s Crypt
3rd/4th – Nicholas Fennell – MUD
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
4 Mishra’s Factory
4 Mishra’s Workshop
4 Ancient Tomb
1 Strip Mine
1 Tolarian Academy
4 Wasteland
4 Arcbound Ravager
3 Chief of the Foundry
4 Foundry Inspector
3 Hangarback Walker
4 Phyrexian Revoker
4 Steel Overseer
4 Walking Ballista
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Sol ring
4 Sphere of Resistance
1 Trinisphere
1 Thorn of Amethyst
1 Traxos, Scourge of Kroog
1 Mana Crypt
Sideboard
1 Dismember
4 Grafdigger’s Cage
3 Null Rod
3 Precursor Golem
1 Tormod’s Crypt
3 Sorcerous Spyglass
5th-8th – Thomas Sellitto – UR Delver
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Young Pyromancer
1 Snapcaster Mage
4 Force of Will
4 LIghtning Bolt
4 Mental MIsstep
4 Preordain
4 Daze
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Brainstorm
1 Gitaxian Probe
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Ponder
1 Time Walk
1 Gush
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Dig Through Time
2 Null Rod
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Flooded Strand
4 Wasteland
3 Volcanic Island
2 Island
1 Strip Mine
Sideboard
3 Grafdigger’s Cage
4 Pyroblast
2 Null Rod
2 Ravenous Trap
1 Mountain
1 Sudden Shock
1 By Force
1 Flusterstorm
5th-8th – Jacob Dunn – Grixis Control
4 Dark Confidant
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Myr Battlesphere
4 Force oF Will
2 Mana Drain
2 Spell Pierce
2 Mental Misstep
3 Lightning Bolt
1 Time Walk
1 Brainstorm
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Yawgmoth’s Will
1 Tinker
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Merchant Scroll
1 Mystical Tutor
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Hurkyl’s Recall
3 Jace, The Mindsculptor
4 Polluted Delta
3 Scalding Tarn
2 Volcanic Island
3 Underground Sea
1 Island
1 Swamp
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Mox Emerald
1 Sol Ring
Lotus Petal
Mana Crypt
Time Vault
Voltaic Key
Sideboard
4 Yixlid Jailer
4 Ingot Chewer
4 grafdigger’s Cage
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Strip Mine
1 Mountain
5th-8th – James Dowling – Landstill
2 Faerie Conclave
4 Flooded Strand
2 Island
1 Karakas
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Plains
2 Scalding Tarn
1 Strip Mine
4 Tundra
3 Wasteland
2 Jace, The Mindsculptor
1 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
1 Treasure Cruise
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Dig Through Time
1 Disenchant
4 Force of Will
3 Mana Drain
3 Mental Misstep
2 Mindbreak Trap
2 Spell Snare
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Moat
3 Standstill
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Spell Queller
1 Black Lotus
2 Crucible of Worlds
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Sol Ring
Sideboard
4 Containment Priest
1 Disenchant
2 Energy Flux
2 Flusterstorm
2 Fragmentize
2 Path to Exile
2 Pithing Needle
5th-8th – Luke McCoy – Dredge
4 Bazaar of Baghdad
4 Bloodghast
4 Bridge from Below
1 Cabal Pit
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Dakmor Salvage
1 Dragonlord Kolaghan
2 Dread Return
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
4 Golgari Grave-Troll
2 Golgari Thug
4 Hollow One
2 Ichorid
1 Ingot Chewer
4 Mana Confluence
4 Narcomoeba
2 Petrified Field
4 Serum Powder
4 Stinkweed Imp
4 Undiscovered Paradise
1 Wispmare
1 Fatestitcher
Sideboard
2 Abrupt Decay
3 Gurmag Angler
2 Ingot Chewer
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Nature’s Claim