@chase_dagger

What were you expecting? People are naturally going to play safer decks in a new unknown meta. This is literally the first competitive anything under the new B&R changes so I wasn't expecting anything mindblowingly new.

@Montolio Have you not thought that maybe the vintage playerbase is so small because it's either invest in a 700tix deck just for free play, or play in dailies where the time slot is unreasonable for a lot of the non-USA playerbase? That is what online vintage is currenly and something needs to be tried at least.

We should be working towards bringing back those who migrated to legacy for leagues. And getting the main hub of online vintage players into competitive play.

Haven't logged in to MTGO for over a month because of no Vintage leagues.

Well I guess I'm back in. With the multiple sets of power I bought into at its low (and the profit from sales to goatbots just then allowed me to fill out containment priest sets and others).

Cheering

Well 5 of them.

Worth a quick look.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/competitive-vintage-constructed-league-2017-08-31

@The-Atog-Lord Sorry if it came across as I was implying VSL players do it, I tried to say the opposite.

@kingleovold

What sort of lists have you seen? I'm waiting to see some yawgmoth decks.

There's a sweet stone blade style deck with spell quellers that 5-0d. Will be giving that a test run later.

Also hatebears 5-0d for the win as well, but I don't own canopies, elspeths or katakis so won't be giving that a spin anytime soon

@john-cox said in Oath:

I'd really like to try an oath list with no artifact mana and a dack/cantrip engine. Does that seem worth doing?

How are you playing a T1 oath without artifact mana? IMHO if you're not trying for the T1 oath then theirs no point playing the deck.

@PeAcH Not just europe. Asia and Australia as well. In Australia you have to essentially be unemployed to play weekday vintage dailies ironically.

@kistrand I know 11 people personally at my one LGS that have vintage online, but we cannot play dailies as we all work whilst dailies are firing (11am-1pm).

I also know a fair few legacy players at mt LGS who bought into vintage during VMA but then sold out either when wizards pulled the rug out after VMA or jumped ship when legacy leagues became a thing.

So leagues would help the 2 dozen or so people from my area who just cannot do dailies. And there must be other such pockets out there, especially europe.

@john-cox said in Oath:

I'd really like to try an oath list with no artifact mana and a dack/cantrip engine. Does that seem worth doing?

How are you playing a T1 oath without artifact mana? IMHO if you're not trying for the T1 oath then theirs no point playing the deck.

@hierarchnoble First time I've seen Gummi Bears discussed in a mtg commentary.

Hmmm hopefully no double land plays, dodgy pile shuffles or peculiar foil sideboarding incidents on camera

There's a sweet stone blade style deck with spell quellers that 5-0d. Will be giving that a test run later.

Also hatebears 5-0d for the win as well, but I don't own canopies, elspeths or katakis so won't be giving that a spin anytime soon

@pugsuperstar

I'm aware of the info stated in that article. Nowhere does it say its automated and not done by a human.

My MTGO monkey statement still is possible.

Some MTGO monkey could easily do a filter search of decks with 10 differences and then they themselves randomly choose them (or not so randomly). It's not as if there are 100's of 5-0s daily forcing automation.

@desolutionist I wouldn't try anything in a 70%+ field of mentor and shops.

As of now since B&R update over 4 leagues some of the decks I have played are 3 oath, 1 belcher, what I guess was a vintage adaption of UR delver, some sort of opposition deck and that mono white 8 thalia hatebears deck. I haven't played against any of those in dailies on the last 2 months.

To me people are trying new things or recycling old ideas.

@hierarchnoble

Some MTGO dev monkey not familiar with vintage probably chose the 5/6 lists to get posted, probably just thought it was just another tendrils deck

@chase_dagger

What were you expecting? People are naturally going to play safer decks in a new unknown meta. This is literally the first competitive anything under the new B&R changes so I wasn't expecting anything mindblowingly new.

Well 5 of them.

Worth a quick look.

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/competitive-vintage-constructed-league-2017-08-31

@brass-man

You got leagues. Maybe Mac integration is on the far horizon.