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@chubbyrain said in October 17, 2017 Banned & Restricted announcement:

@seksaybish said in October 17, 2017 Banned & Restricted announcement:

Restrict Workshop, it's choking out other colorless decks from the meta 🙄

I know you joke, but...

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Shops is much better against the fair decks than the unfair decks.

Yeah, I'm just poking fun at how folks were on about gush/mentor vs other blue strategies. I appreciate all the work you and @Diophan do for the community. The numbers don't lie.

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Restrict Workshop, it's choking out other colorless decks from the meta 🙄

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I'm just going to leave this here.

2014 Vintage Champs Top 8

4 delver
2 oath
2 shops (4 chalice/4 lodestone)

Winner - Oath (Mark Tocco)

0 dack/delve/gush/probe
3 mana drain, baby
2 basics
0 strip/LoA
8 shop valid hate in SB

Haven't found the Top 32 decklists so I'm currently listening to SMIP #40.

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@bobbyvictory said in October 17, 2017 Banned & Restricted announcement:

@ajfirecracker I promise you that ignoring the misstep problem won't make it go away, nor will it make me go away. I could see more people who don't use this forum coming here and posting about the misstep issue as well.

TMD doesn't need additional chicken littles from the FB Vintage group.

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@bobbyvictory I love seeing Precursor Golem when I'm running Smash to Smithereens.

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B-b-but restricting gitaxian probe, gush, and monastery mentor will open up the format for oppressed decks to rise and take out shops 😂

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@topical_island I'm a goof. I was only thinking about the financial aspect. The DCI's plan to Make Mana Drain Dank Again is on track. Looking at data from mtgtop8 drain went from 22.6% (last 4 months) to 27.8% (last 2 months).

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I doubt this has anything to do with Vintage. I think it's a money grab to bait EDH players to buy into IMA.

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@khahan said in [XLN] Sorcerous Spyglass:

@seksaybish said in [XLN] Sorcerous Spyglass:

@khahan said in [XLN] Sorcerous Spyglass:

A lot of the discussion has been focused on slotting this into shops to pair with revoker. My question is for non-shops decks. Does this replace pithing needle in your sideboards?

That 1 mana difference can mean a WHOLE lot. In games 2 and 3 getting a turn 1 needle down naming bazaar vs a turn 2 can be the difference between stopping dredge and dredge going off. A turn 2 spyglass vs shops on the draw is a lot less effective at naming wasteland and stopping waste effects than a turn 1 needle. But then again casting spyglass and knowing if you need to name ravager or ballista could be great. Not having to guess at blind naming black lotus or jace or dack could be huge. So non-shops pilots - needle or spyglass?

Dodging Mental Skillstep with Spyglass is some good.

yes, the standard reply to a discussion involving alternatives to any 1 drop. But what deck running misstep would you bring pithing needle or spyglass in for? Non-shops decks are bringing in needles to stop wastelands to help stabilize their own mana base or to stop specific strategies like bazaar or 2-card monte. Those don't run misstep. Maybe BUG (I board 1 needle in usually for either wastes or DRS) fits this category. But generally speaking with needle I'm not in the least bit concerned about it being misstepped.

You nailed it with BUG and Pitch Dredge. There's also StoneBlade, Standstill, and UR Delver w/ Dack/JVP.