@joshuabrooks everything is relative though, and even though the price of CE/IE power is super inflated, $2000 for 5 CE moxen is substantially more affordable than $2000 just for a Sapphire. If there ends up being a "correction" in both directions, then so be it. No one believes that legalizing CE will suddenly create 2000 person vintage GPs, but maybe it means EW pulling 500+ regularly. Maybe StarCity could reliably pull 220+ for vintage events. This could also allow more smaller TOs to host EW qualifiers, which by definition must be sanctioned. I just think its a no brainer move.

@volrathxp i think i saw on twitter a mono red prison list came in somewhere in the 60s. Not sure if any nulldrazi lists did better.

@tittliewinks22 unless im missing some interaction that prevents it, this deck needs some nantuko shades and another coffers.

I have been main decking true name nemesis to break open the mirror match, which often comes down to whos plainswalker or snapcaster survives the longest, or who gets mentor with critical mass of cards first. As a jeskai pilot, i had the hardest time against an outcome player who boarded in mana drains and an extra flusterstorm. The drains were unexpected so I played right into them.

@joshuabrooks My main point is because it won't hurt anything, and the proxy precedent has already been set, then why not?

I am going to keep this short, since I feel the argument is a simple one. Now that there is an official policy on Proxys for foil only cards like Kess in Legacy and Nexus in standard, I believe it is time for Wizards to extend the policy further to include CE/IE cards in the Eternal Formats.

I have no idea if this somehow infringes on the reserved list (not sure how it would...) but the merits of this have to outweigh the negatives. Access to cheaper duals for legacy, and additional power for Vintage players. This would add approximately 14,000 copies of these cards into the pool of available duals and power, and could help facilitate additional sanctioned Eternal events in the future.

Thoughts?

@moorebrother1 Eh, the community is so hypersensitive to theft that I'm more worried at larger events than 1-off 150 person vintage events. Hell, I was more worried at SCG Con than at NYSE, Waterbury or eternal extrvaganza combined.

There's a will there's a way, and theirs 20g's in cardboard...I'm sorry to say, the long term survival of competitive vintage involves proxies, and it has for 15 years. Most American based old school allows CE/IE. No sanctioned vintage event does, and that represents a substantial difference in cost to enter the format.

@nedleeds I too, agree on proxies, but you are talking about cutting literally dozens of players out of the mix if you ran this as sanctioned. Hell i'd wager SCG would have easily pulled over 200 if their event was proxied like the SCG P9 events of old.

You had me at "Austin"! I was just there in april for a "Mancation" with my buddies from college and we tore it up. I'd go back just for another day of boozing on Lake Travis, but a day of playing magic would be a bonus.

Would need minimum 3 months notice, preferably 4 or 5. Personally, an entry fee over $150 is excessive to me, but you need to give away power to get butts in the seats...its a fine line these days with absurd prices. I hope you manage to get this off the ground!

Am I correct in calling this the most expensive competitive deck in Magic?