I think you should speak about Spanish Vintage players. They won all European vintage championships.

They don't play MOL, but they are really good players.

@log

I'm the missing top8 player. I was playing dredge, but the deck abandoned me in first game (mull to oblivion in
the worst moment), and a great City un a bottle destroyed my two bazaar hand on G2

"Mishra’s Workshop is directly responsible for SIX restrictions now"

I would like to know how many cards are restricted due to islands...

But..., nice article.

@oestrus

I had a lot of discussions with my friends regarding these two cards.

All of them agreed that darkblast is bad, and I should play a golgari thug instead. But I like having a card preboard against Jailer, though It is not the most played card now.

Loam is played as Cage or priest 'antihate'. With only those cards, my idea was return lands and play trolls.

Actually, both cards seré irrelevant, as many of the cards, because my opponent or I died before.

@gutocmtt said in The Restrictions Are Just a First Step Toward Fixing Vintage: Brian DeMars:

To me it's more about how busted the deck is. If the deck has a 14% metagame share with other decks having to pack 7-10 dedicated slots to play against it, it's clearly warping the metagame. Dredge is the deck we kinda get used to waste 6 sideboard slots. Pre-ban the sideboard had to be 12-14 slots for dredge and artifact.

About the 'island' comment, you should compare island to wastes. When we see a land with 'tap to add UUU. Use this mana only to cast instant or sorcery spells' it will make sense. Mishra's workshop has made a lot of cards get restricted so that it doesn't need to, and that's a pretty loud fact.

Jejeje... It was only a "joke". But, it's funny that Manu people are speaking about highlander mud, when blue decks are commander decks with 4 fows since... when? 2008?

I think uba-stax was more expensive. Pack, bazaar and workshop.

Not most competitive at the moment, but...

@stormanimagus

I played barbarian ring in MKM Rome 2015, several months before the first list using It was publicated.

It's true that a person could use some tech that nobody use before, and they are never considered as the first user due to their list was never publicated.

Ehh... That is not criticism. I like your articles a lot.

That was only a suggestion to complete the picture.

@nsammael said in EW Europe 2018 - Decklists:

@oestrus

I had a lot of discussions with my friends regarding these two cards.

All of them agreed that darkblast is bad, and I should play a golgari thug instead. But I like having a card preboard against Jailer, though It is not the most played card now.

Loam is played as Cage or priest 'antihate'. With only those cards, my idea was return lands and play trolls.

Actually, both cards seré irrelevant, as many of the cards, because my opponent or I died before.

To complete this information, my pairings were 1 mirror, 1 blue with vault/key, 3 MUD (2 win 1 Lost), 1 oath. I don't remember the other one.

I lost against fantasy paradoxical un top8, maybe my worst pairing un whole top.

Brawl it's a minicommander, 60 cards. WotC launched for standard, but I suppose that could be adapted to any format

@mike-noble said in [ELD] Deafening Silence:

Anyone that thinks that a top 8 performance in 7 round events is a solid metric for card/deck playability should know about the time I made top 8 of a 65 player event with 4 Shardless Agent, 4 Daze, and 0 ways to manipulate the top card(s) of my library in my maindeck. That deck was trash despite this result and the win I got at a 20 person Mox Pearl event.

That reminds me a deck that I saw. When broodbraid elf was released, a person played a 4 BBE, lands and singletons.

He won the tourney.

I like it, but it's true that It has a feeling like Fact or Fiction, a card that it's not played at all, even if Narset doesn't affect It. I
don't know if it's better or worse

@gutocmtt said in The Restrictions Are Just a First Step Toward Fixing Vintage: Brian DeMars:

To me it's more about how busted the deck is. If the deck has a 14% metagame share with other decks having to pack 7-10 dedicated slots to play against it, it's clearly warping the metagame. Dredge is the deck we kinda get used to waste 6 sideboard slots. Pre-ban the sideboard had to be 12-14 slots for dredge and artifact.

About the 'island' comment, you should compare island to wastes. When we see a land with 'tap to add UUU. Use this mana only to cast instant or sorcery spells' it will make sense. Mishra's workshop has made a lot of cards get restricted so that it doesn't need to, and that's a pretty loud fact.

Jejeje... It was only a "joke". But, it's funny that Manu people are speaking about highlander mud, when blue decks are commander decks with 4 fows since... when? 2008?

"Mishra’s Workshop is directly responsible for SIX restrictions now"

I would like to know how many cards are restricted due to islands...

But..., nice article.

The version i'm thinking about has some more lands, 4 dakmor + 4 paradise + 2 "free slots" (It could be petrified field, riftstone portal, wasteland and strip mine...) And 4 Diamonds.

As I said, it's more combo focused, but It has 2 FoV, though It could be 4 (i'm afraid not having enough green cards)

Brawl it's a minicommander, 60 cards. WotC launched for standard, but I suppose that could be adapted to any format

In the fatesticher version, LED it's the best card you can draw, apart of bazaar. It lets you dredge from t1, and unearth fatesticher. That's a 95% chance of T1 win. I don't know why you would play any other rock over it.

With London mulligan, I'm thinking in play full set of mox diamond and dakmor savage, in addition to the 4 mana rocks (Lotus, LED, shapphire and petal). Obviously it's even a more combo version, with less interaction.

@blindtherapy

Because survival has other lines of plays. You don't need that bazaar is 100% of times in your starting hand.

Well, reanimating It gives you 8 cards...

New Griselbrand for oath. Each orchard gives you two cards. Misstep too. Lose the crypt flip is not as bad as before. Kills baleful strix...

I don't know if he's better than Griselbrand, but he is bigger.