@katzby said in Reverting cards to original functionality:

@nedleeds said in Reverting cards to original functionality:

Djinn was played as a destroy effect for years, it's a terrible card in modern magic either way but would be an interesting player in 93/94 if you could combo with Consecrate Land.

One quick note- even if Serendib Djinn's wording were changed to something like "At the beginning of your upkeep, destroy a land you control...", then it would still not combo with Consecrate Land. Or rather, it would, but probably not in the way that you are thinking.

I gather what you wish to do is choose your Consecrated land each turn and expect this to satisfy the trigger, meanwhile going about the rest of your game with other lands on the battlefield. Right? This would not work under the current rules.

This is because Consecrate Land gives the enchanted land Indestructible, and so it would therefore be an illegal choice when resolving this ability.

What you could do, though, is destroy all of your other lands leaving only Consecrate-enchanted lands on the battlefield under you control. This would at least allow you to escape the other "When you control no lands..." trigger condition. But, again, I don't think this is what you were going for.

There are various ways to change the wording of the ability to something that would combo with Consecrate Land, but I feel any such wording would be even further away from the original text than the current Oracle seems to be.

FYI, the hypothetical wording above would still combo with Pyramids, though.

Thanks.

Abe

Oh yeah I forgot that the rules are 'now' (vs. 1994) smart enough to know the attributes of an object. For old people like me this is counter intuitive. A rule that I have to constantly remind myself of is that damage 'knows' it has qualities. Deathtouch being the most common example when assigning it, the game rules 'know' 1 point is lethal. This is similar the game rules know the object can't be destroyed.

So really this is another reason to make it work as Garfield intended. It will work as an awful combo with Pyramids. It allows you to have 1 land (Consecrated) after an Armageddon. It's still reallllll bad though.

Thanks for clarifying.

How many times in your build with 4 Shows is Bargain better than Griselbrand? Especially game 1? In which matchups? When a sphere player puts revoker in and stones Bargain you still have a 7/7 Demon. If you've been aggroed down to a low life title they both suffer. Certainly below 8 is an important number.

Edit: Have you weighed the benefit of having 2-3 griselbrands as it relates to being able to side Oath of Druids?

@ephemeron said in Eternal Extravaganza 7 Results:

@nedleeds said in Eternal Extravaganza 7 Results:

I vote for the dude oathing and flipping over 2 Demonic Tutors #oathishard

The best part is they said he had 2 Demonic Tutors written on his decklist too, so at least he's consistent.

Oh yeah, I think it's clear there was zero intent to cheat. He just filled his deck list out wrong and followed it to the letter. But as it flipped over and Nick just kind of motions over to it had to be hilarious in person. I guess add that to the reasons not to just scoop to Griseloath.

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I vote for the dude oathing and flipping over 2 Demonic Tutors #oathishard

They are releasing the core 2.0 game pretty soon also which gets you a ton of cards and is a pretty good jumping in point for the game. I played it a lot in the 90s and haven't picked up the re-published version.

I'd expect nothing less from an Oath primer. Except maybe, Mox Orchard Oath the End.

"Show and Tell dodges much of the most common Oath hate, including both Grafdigger's Cage and Containment Priest."

Show and Tell certainly doesn't dodge Containment Priest if you plan on Showing a dude.

@vaughnbros said in Vintage 101: Iconic Dino-Pirates!:

Canopy would see a ton of play if it was fetch-able. I'd like to think that it should be considered a staple for Dredge. Its getting a very badly needed reprint, and I think you should see an uptick in how often the card is played with that.

Back when Massacre was more of a staple I played Plains-less W/g hate. They've printed enough faux savannahs that you can reliably play those colors without it (Razorverge, Canopy, Brush, Cavern).

Target creature and target non-land perm are a pretty massive gap. Being able to bounce Null Rod, Stony Silence, Tangle Wire even Oath is a colossal difference. The ceiling of bouncing a tinker-bot remains the same, but you don't get a scry with Perilous.

@vaughnbros sure but anytime you split a user base you devalue the platform. If Arena gains in popularity it may pull users off MTGO, maybe not as great a % from the people who are strictly using MTGO exclusively to play eternal. That number is pretty small though.