I think they decide things in an arbitrary fashion. They'd just say World Champs aren't allowed and wave hands. They make decisions like

"Magic needs to be an eSport, we're improving the live streaming"

... then they print expeditions and evocations ...

Buy a box exclusives won't be competitive

... print instant Time Walk ...

That being said with everything going on with Type II lagging and Arena being received poorly this is 1,098 on their list of things to fuck up. The depressing part is it would take a 15 minute blog post and an update to the TR.

http://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=6153

Misstep hadn't begun its corrosive incestuous climb because Delve, Dack, Pyro/Mentor hadn't made Free into +1 mana and a Token.

What an awesome top 8 in to this date one of the largest paper events ever. Icing on top was beta power for prizes.

This should have been done after Innistrad was released. You can now play both Alpha (the corners) and fucking puzzle cards (the cards backs on Innistrad and the crazy meld ones). Now the final nail is the warped 'foil only's' from commander / buy a box.

And I agree with @joshuabrooks this would have negligible impact on format accessibility. It may result in people having decks to loan as many folks have a set of CE power. But the prices on IE/CE have gone nuts anyway.

I for one would love the affect on aesthetics since they are beta ink, beta stock beta plate printed cards and look far better in a sleeve than a washed out revised.

@vaughnbros said in Vintage Meta-game:

If you are more liberal with your classification system, Vintage has had the same decks for a long long time.

Jeskai is just Gush without the Gush.
Paradoxical is just Vault/Key with a new draw engine.
Dredge is still Dredge despite some new card choices.
Shops is still shops despite it not really being a Prison deck anymore.
Oath/Landstill/Delver/ect. have also been around a while.

The only "new" decks are Survival, Lands and Eldrazi. But these are really only a few degrees of separation from Dredge and Workshops. I'm also not entirely sure it feels any less stale that there are a couple of newcomers as you are still playing a majority of matches against/with the same old decks.

If you want a radical shakeup, you are talking about revisiting the entirety of the restricted list or playing a different format (which it seems people are taking the latter approach by going to old school).

I'm even less liberal

Missteps
Aggregate Combo / Defense Grid
Spheres
Bazaars

The reason the best aggregate combo deck is outcome and not rituals is because Misstep is played at 3.8 by 50% of the format. The reason shops wins at all is the same reason (plus 1.5 Flusterstorms and half a Pyroblast), otherwise it's a pretty anemic deck. Bazaar is so busted it can win with either Basking Rootwalla alongside it or Stinkweed Imp.

I'm in the same boat, I had a good time at SCG Con and was a punt and a bad opener from finishing really well but it left me feeling like there wasn't anything new to see.

@moorebrother1 said in Questions about large Vintage tournaments:

@p3temangus I think we all agree that using real cards is better and proxies increase the turnout, but I will not travel for a proxy event even with a large prize. The audience tends to be very different and I get very concerned about theft.

I appreciate that not everyone has 20K - 40K in cards but playing old school has shown me that if you want to be in the format you find a way.

That's just my opinion.

Me as well, I'm not traveling for vintage to see Scalding Tarn scrawled on a forest. It's just off putting. I said proxies suck in the sense that most
peoples proxies actually do suck. IE/CE or drawn proxies suck much less. Allowing power shop bazaar to be proxied is a decent compromise.

@brass-man said in [GOR] Thought Erasure:

I completely disagree with the premise and I think this card is significantly worse in this metagame than Thoughtseize.

I can't understand how you can reconcile the idea that Misstep is keeping Thoughtseize out of the format, and the clear fact that Lightning Bolt, Preordain, and Pyroblast are more successful right now than Abrade, Strategic Planning, and Burnout.

Because Thoughtseize is a Sorcery. Sinking main phase mana into it and having it Misstepped and the opponent sinking no mana (+1 mana if you count delve) into it is a rough exchange. Preordain is a sorcery as well however almost all the decks that play it are also saddled with 3.8 Missteps to they can have a gentleman's misstep fight. As for Pyroblast, I'd argue that Pyroblast could actually be an effective card for 'less blue' deck if Misstep were restricted. A RGB deck could fight Outcome and the 'more blue decks' effectively using cards like REB/Pyro, unfortunately it (and the DRS those decks would likely play) can't resolve against a wall of Missteps without diluting said 'less blue' deck with a wall of Missteps.

Ritual storm is a deck that wants to play things like Defense Grid, playing cards like Duress or Thoughtseize without Misstep are reasonable in those kind of shells. That being said that archetype appears pretty dead.

edit: and yes this cards isn't nearly good enough, off the top of my head Collective Brutality is superior and I'm the only one I've ever seen play even that card outside of like Dragon.

Austin is awesome. Proxies suck. Prizes could be cash, power or brisket.

@gkraigher said in [C18] Yuriko, The Tiger's Shadow:

Why would you play this card over dark confidant? Also, I don’t think any deck runs even a single Confidant, let alone confidant #4 which is still clearly better than the first copy of this card.

It’s a cool card, just not vintage or legacy playable.

You will constantly be flipping over cards that do 0 damage in vintage. The only exception would be force of will.

Trying to trigger ninjutsu makes your deck bad.

Standstill is really the only reason in Vintage. It's also more resilient to 1 damage effects.

If Misstep ever gets restricted there may be a compelling reason to run this in a fast Skullclamp power shop deck. It's also minor but if some better Thopters get printed the value of this goes up as they all convert to vanilla 4/4's.

There are a few ETB fringe playables the Cantrip one and the Colored Shop enabler.

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