I wish we had had more time without Chalice for the format to adjust before another change. It's such bad policy to make decisions like that.
Anyway, without getting into that kind of debate, I think that Chalice being restricted increases the value of a bunch of 1cc cards.
I think Vintage players are justified in complaining about this announcement. I am not usually a Workshop player, and I think this was a horrible decision. It is not because "my favorite deck" isn't legal anymore, and it makes you sound dumb if that's your response when people complain about a restriction. Presumably, the people on this forum have been playing Vintage for long enough to remember that there are deeper problems with the way this format is managed.
Format management may not be as interesting to everyone as it is to me, but for people who have been talking to Wizards, reading interviews, and following articles about B/R for 20 years, it is well-known that the DCI doesn't take Eternal formats seriously, and none of the committee members are experienced with playing either of the formats (no matter what promotional youtube channels you may have come across). The decisions are made with no research, no tournament experience, and no consistency. The factors that influence WotC in these decisions are generally bad for the formats, and include embarrassing methods such as obsolete magic theory, irrelevant historical decisions, anecdotal format experience, image concerns, and the echo-chamber of the personal channels that have formed over the years. The process does not rest on anything intelligent, and you should not give it the benefit of the doubt.
The rational response to mismanagement is to complain, or even start your own unsanctioned leagues with better-managed restricted lists. This hobby is not supported by WotC in the first place; it is we the players that make it happen and have kept it alive. I believe the situation with Legacy is more complicated, but Vintage does not need the DCI at all. We find each other. We build our own communities (thanks to Steve and Andy). We fund, promote, run, and judge our own tournaments. We bring ourselves to the tournaments, and we even make our own cards. I also believe that a subset of our players knows better than WotC what is best for the format, and I know for sure that a few of us have better methods of making B/R decisions than they do. Their corporate obligation to the descendant products of Magic: the Gathering creates a centralization that has been more stable than a community authority, but that is the only reason we (and not all of us do!) let them define our format for us. In Vintage, the DCI is a relic that we pay attention to out of habit.
If the herpderp committee actually does ban Workshop, then let this be a lesson to those fame-seekers that have given their credibility to people who are non-experts on this non-pro format.
R&D has pushed creature power so much (say in the last 5 years) that Vintage decks have had to change their approach to creature removal. Lightning Bolt was simply not worth a card for many years.
However, there are many creatures now that are so powerful that most decks have to have answers for them. I think the 3 damage is not the important part to focus on, but the cost of R. If you're in red and don't have access to better removal, then you will probably keep using Bolt.
Unfortunately, it's a sorcery, but R&D finally printed the 2cc card I have been hoping for for years.
1U
Sorcery
Draw two cards.
Raid — If you didn't attack with a creature this turn, discard a card.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/cards/ixalan/29305-chart-a-course
@Zherbus This was your chance to help people spell your username!
This is the kind of event that makes me feel better about not having access to sanctioned Vintage. Am I really missing that much?
Unfortunately, it's a sorcery, but R&D finally printed the 2cc card I have been hoping for for years.
1U
Sorcery
Draw two cards.
Raid — If you didn't attack with a creature this turn, discard a card.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/cards/ixalan/29305-chart-a-course
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@rikter said in Looking for new/used "Hardest Sleeves":
@Machinus I did some searching and only found KMC perfect hard, which are stronger inner sleeves. If this is about protecting the cards, they might be a good bet.
I have only seen those in clear. How do they compare to the premium hyper matte?
@socialite said in Looking for new/used "Hardest Sleeves":
Overrated.
May I suggest KMC Perfect "Hard" and any of the KMC matte sleeves.
They stand up to my large hands and forceful shuffling without ever bending a corner or splitting. That's why I like them.
@rikter said in Looking for new/used "Hardest Sleeves":
@Machinus Who makes these?
I never found out the manufacturer. They were available locally in Japan, but that's all I could determine. I do not think new ones are being produced.
If you have any of these, or know where to get them, I'm willing to buy them in any color.
They look like this:
We can figure out the details privately.
I wish we had had more time without Chalice for the format to adjust before another change. It's such bad policy to make decisions like that.
Anyway, without getting into that kind of debate, I think that Chalice being restricted increases the value of a bunch of 1cc cards.
R&D has pushed creature power so much (say in the last 5 years) that Vintage decks have had to change their approach to creature removal. Lightning Bolt was simply not worth a card for many years.
However, there are many creatures now that are so powerful that most decks have to have answers for them. I think the 3 damage is not the important part to focus on, but the cost of R. If you're in red and don't have access to better removal, then you will probably keep using Bolt.
I think Vintage players are justified in complaining about this announcement. I am not usually a Workshop player, and I think this was a horrible decision. It is not because "my favorite deck" isn't legal anymore, and it makes you sound dumb if that's your response when people complain about a restriction. Presumably, the people on this forum have been playing Vintage for long enough to remember that there are deeper problems with the way this format is managed.
Format management may not be as interesting to everyone as it is to me, but for people who have been talking to Wizards, reading interviews, and following articles about B/R for 20 years, it is well-known that the DCI doesn't take Eternal formats seriously, and none of the committee members are experienced with playing either of the formats (no matter what promotional youtube channels you may have come across). The decisions are made with no research, no tournament experience, and no consistency. The factors that influence WotC in these decisions are generally bad for the formats, and include embarrassing methods such as obsolete magic theory, irrelevant historical decisions, anecdotal format experience, image concerns, and the echo-chamber of the personal channels that have formed over the years. The process does not rest on anything intelligent, and you should not give it the benefit of the doubt.
The rational response to mismanagement is to complain, or even start your own unsanctioned leagues with better-managed restricted lists. This hobby is not supported by WotC in the first place; it is we the players that make it happen and have kept it alive. I believe the situation with Legacy is more complicated, but Vintage does not need the DCI at all. We find each other. We build our own communities (thanks to Steve and Andy). We fund, promote, run, and judge our own tournaments. We bring ourselves to the tournaments, and we even make our own cards. I also believe that a subset of our players knows better than WotC what is best for the format, and I know for sure that a few of us have better methods of making B/R decisions than they do. Their corporate obligation to the descendant products of Magic: the Gathering creates a centralization that has been more stable than a community authority, but that is the only reason we (and not all of us do!) let them define our format for us. In Vintage, the DCI is a relic that we pay attention to out of habit.
This is the kind of event that makes me feel better about not having access to sanctioned Vintage. Am I really missing that much?