@chubbyrain said in Quality of Experience - An Alternate Take on B&R:
@khahan said in Quality of Experience - An Alternate Take on B&R:
I really think its time Vintage went to a B&R&S list - Banned ( 0 copies) Restricted (2 copies max) and Singleton (1 copy max).
The only argument ever presented against this that I have seen is that it could be too confusing for new players. What new players?
There are plenty of new players on MTGO. The online format is thriving.
Doesn't that take away the problem of remembering how many of each you can have? Its all programmed in so if you have a 2 of and try to add a third it tells you the deck is now illegal. Or does mtgo not do that?
I really think its time Vintage went to a B&R&S list - Banned ( 0 copies) Restricted (2 copies max) and Singleton (1 copy max).
The only argument ever presented against this that I have seen is that it could be too confusing for new players. What new players?
Ryan can't help but reach out and cop a feel of Joe's cards.
Dean ponders the awesomeness that is his alters and wonders if this is enough on its own to take down Evan.
Some of Dean's alters
No idea how to get these right side up.
I wouldn't call Mystic Remora 'not your typical vintage card.' Its seen more play in the past and has certainly had periods where it saw no play. But the past 4-5 tournaments I've been to has seen anywhere from 1-4 decks playing at least 1 copy if not more.
Our invitational standings are getting exciting. Greg Hoover narrowly holds onto the #1 seed for the second month in a row, holding off a charging Ryan McKinney by 1 point. Dan Barkon, who missed this event, is still in the top 8 and tied for 6th/7th/8th place with Evan Hunterdmark and Joe Brennan.
Dean Harris and Jason Beaupre are 1 event away from muscling into the mix.
Nic DiJohn, Stephen Ganter and Ryan Glackin are making a good push with their point totals to stay within striking distance.
Stephen Harvey, though he is 12 points out of the top 8 has only been to 1 event. A few more showings like that and he's in.
1 Hoover Greg 43
2 McKinney Ryan 42
3 Greb Chuck 39
4 Dobbin Zach 38
5 Barkon Joshua 34
6 Barkon Dan 30
7 Hunterdmark Evan 30
8 Brennan Joe 30
13 people showed up at Deal Me In Games in the heart of downtown Boyertown, Pa today to do battle. No clear winner was decided as Chuck Greb and Stephen Harvey smashed their way thru the top 8, the top 4 then decided to split the finals. Congratulations to Chuck and Stephen both for great days at the tables.
Our top 8 was:
Greg Hoover vs Chuck Greb Chuck took it 2-1
Dean Harris vs Ryan McKinney Ryan wins 2-1
Zach Dobbin vs Joe Brennan Joe wins 2-0
Stephen Harvey vs Stephen Ganter Stephen H wins 2-0
In the top 4 we had:
Stephen Harvey defeat Joe Brennan 2-0
Chuck Greb defeat Ryan McKinney 2-0
In the finals:
Stephen Harvey and Chuck Greb split
Top 8 decklists will be posted by Jason a bit later. But to the best of my knowledge:
Greg Hoover - Ravager shops
Dean Harris - Dark Depths
Zach Dobbins - Dredge
Stephen Harvey - delver/pyro
Chuck Greb - some creative delver monstrosity
Ryan McKinney - Titan Oath
Joe Brennan -
Stephen Ganter - esper control
We had a pretty diverse meta with 13 players and at least 9 distinctly different decks.
2 shops - 1 ravager, 1 blue shops
1 white eldrazi
2 oath variants
2 PO decks
2 delver decks
1 one-card monte comb
1 dark depths
1? dredge
1 chuck greb
Thank you all who came out today. And we will see everybody next the second sunday of April for our next tournament. That is Sunday, April 14!
Invitational standings in the next post.
@13nova said in London Has(n't) Fallen:
Yes, and that is focused on the Sky Is Falling approach. This is a counter-point to the negativity that's littering that post.
I think the reality of the change (if it happens) will be somewhere between your post and the other thread. Yes, everything you say is true. But the negativity in the other post is also rooted in truth. I do tend to think much of the truth though is a bit less negative and a bit more, "Change is coming".
The reality is, we will see certain strategies get a bump up by being able to mulligan more aggressively. Specifically the ever present Shops and the lesser pillar in dredge. I think Oath also gets a bump up as well.
This does not mean those archetypes suddenly become the only ones and push everything else out. It just means the landscape changes a bit. But for a community like the Vintage community where changes come at a glacial pace I can understand how this shake up can be worrisome.
Best suggestion to everybody - dont embrace the coming change. Dont reject the coming change. Simply approach your first few experiences of the change with an open mind - then decide to embrace or reject.
This weekend is the big event. Sunday at Noon. Don't forget this is also day light savings time. We bump the clocks ahead 1 hour saturday night. So plan accordingly!
And dont forget about Deal Me In Games Invitational. We're 2 events in but there are plenty of points to be earned. Top 8 point earners on the year get the invite to a special invitational tournament with its own prize support. Our points year to date can be found here:
Get ready for the third event of Deal Me In Games 2019 schedule! We'll be meeting Sunday March 10, 2019 at noon at Deal Me In Games in Boyertown, Pa to sling cardboard, win prizes, earn points and gain bragging rights!
Starting at NOON on Sunday, March 10 we have our monthly store tournament.
Who:
Jason at Deal Me In Games
What:
15 playtest T1 tournament (Vintage for you young 'uns)
Where:
127 East Philadelphia Ave
Boyertown, PA 19512
ph#: 484-415-0058
When:
Sunday, Mar 10 at 12 Noon
Why:
So we can get together and have fun playing Magic the Gathering in its best format ever for some kickass prizes. ***
PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING CHANGES TO PRIZES
***Starting with our January tournament, all prize payouts will be in cash. That's right, you walk in with cash for an entry fee and cards to play and walk out with cold hard cash in hand. Payouts will be based on attendance. The entry fee remains at $35. $5 from each entrant each and every month goes towards to the end of year invitational prizes (2018 we had a mishra's workshop and underground sea for 1st and 2nd). $5 towards the host store and $25 per person goes towards the prize pool. 100% of prize pool payout goes towards top 8 (depending on attendance, may be top 4).
Because this is a cash payout, please bring cash for the entry fee.
***Also note Jason's new promotion - if you bring a new player who has not played Vintage at DMIG in the past, you get a break on your entry fee (this does not affect the amount in the prize pool).