@brass-man we are old... I, I simply have no words.
@topical_island I love the idea of saying the game is marketed to 7 year olds by making a reference to a 25 year old kids show. Maybe WotC isn't dumbing things down... Maybe we're just really old.
This is a reason I really like vintage. I can go play vintage with my friends and we have a lot in common, mortgages, kids, money. I've been to a couple tournaments at a bar.
If I went to the standard FNM that draws most of the players where I live I wouldn't have that comradery, I like vintage because I'm old.
Lotus, 2 Moxen and Petal is four secondary sources (40% chance in opener) of mana. Math that out with a 4 off card (40% of 40%) and you get about an 11% chance of it happening turn 1 if theres 4 copies in your deck.
Add in stuff like repeal and chrome or opal mox and your looking at 20ish percent.
This isn't a bad turn 2 play.
I think the home is in a mentor shell. Maybe a PO mentor deck without the PO's. Put in some extra Snapcaster/Jaces. Maybe a blue angel 2.0 deck.
Your hand is Tundra, Grafdigger Cage, Swords to Plowshares, Blank Magic Card, , Blank Magic Card, Blank Magic Card, Blank Magic Card.
I don't think its as simple as that. After side boarding he has 8 (or close to) relevant cards in the match. Having a hand with 2 of them is an accomplishment.
This seems like a solid upgrade to the anti artifact hatebears out there (Tin Street Hooligan, Torch Fiend), it also blows up bridges and kills most creatures in the format.
While I don't see a dedicated deck that would play it (maybe a sideboard in Mono Red?) It might be worth a look, any thoughts?
@kaluma i really dont understand your last posts... so i have 2 questions for you, so i can understand the whole thing better:
Do you stream aswell? If so...
Does this jeff got more viewers than you?
Somehow i feel i know alredy the answers.... and now i understand your post better.... it actually makes sense xD
I don't want this to get out of hand, but Kaluma (along with a whole bunch of other people here* @wfain) invented the deck and did it witha lot of it streaming so I doubt Kaluma has stream envy. I think jeff is very good at playing popular decks in interesting formats. Most TMD people are more attuned to vintage gameplay than jeff's audience probably is.
I don't like this in comparison to deluge. With deluge I can keep my Tasigur and kill their Mentors netting me board advantage. This does not do that. It also means that, likely, my opponent will profit more from this than I will with the "tapping lands" clause.
If you restrict walking ballista and/or sphere of resistance you can still make card for card, Tiny Robots. Since the days of Tiny Robots better cards have been printed so I'm almost definitively in that camp that said restrictions will do next to nothing to Workshops.
I have no idea what the best course of action is, but (IMO)that isn't it.