For the past 27 years magic has been a game played by drawing 7 random cards. Gaining access to an 8th known card that cannot be interacted with is fundamentally different.

Most of this discussion seems to be theory or just based on the notion that nothing can every be banned in vintage. Has anyone in here played vintage or legacy online since companions were released? It's miserable. I love both these formats and if they don't make a change (bannings) i have no desire to play them.

@Protoaddict mox ruby is free to proxy and costs $2 online. Similar for the rest of the power. Vintage in its current form is accessible for all but 1 or 2 tournaments a year.

Hello everyone, I am sharing an upcoming Eternal Weekend Vintage Trial in the Pittsburgh area. I am not an employee of the store, but trying to get the word out to the community so everyone has enough time to plan if you are able to make it. They will be providing a tiered prize structure based on attendance (see below) so hopefully we can get a big turnout. Let me know who is interested to gauge attendance.

Where: Mr. Nice Guy Games in Monroeville, Pa
Date: 8/17/19
Start Time: Noon
Registration: 11am - 12 pm
Entry Fee: $30
Format: Vintage

First place will receive a one round bye in the 2019 North America Vintage Championship, a delicious cookie cake, Facebook Fame, and an invitation to the 2020 Mr. Nice Guy Games World Championship! Details about the Mr. Nice Guy Games World Championship and how to qualify can be found here: https://goo.gl/Ywpyse

Prize Payout (Store Credit):
*Store Credit may not be redeemed for tournament entry.

25 players or more: Minimum $1000 IN PRIZES!!!
1st - $200
2nd - $150
3rd/4th - $125
5th-8th - $100
*Prizes will be increased at more than 48 players

17 - 24 Players: $750 in Prizes
1st - $200
2nd - $150
3rd/4th - $100
5th-8th - $50

8 - 16 Players: $500 in Prizes
1st - $200
2nd - $150
3rd/4th - $75

Full details on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2032684007038228/

@MaximumCDawg no wouldn't describe it as the new brainstorm in legacy. It's a card that you know op has every game and if you want to be competitive you also have it every game in a zone that can't be interacted with. After you play a couple matches you'll see its really more of a chess match to see who can deplete the others resources and stick lurrus. Whoever does that will bury the the op in card advantage and win at some point afterwards. Then start over and repeat.

This event looks great. I'm sure it's going to be a great experience based on the amount of effort you put into not only the main event but all of the side games and the second tournament for those who are dropping. I've been keeping an eye out for this and was planning to attend for the first time this year unfortunately with the close proximaty to EW I'm not gona be able to get out of town twice that month. Everyone have fun and I'm hoping you hold it again next year!

I'm not talking about kitchen table. I mean weekly/monthly tournaments that are still held which allow 15 proxies. There may be others but the only truly sanctioned events I'm aware of in the US where u cannot proxy are EW and SCG con. Also online most vintage decks are cheaper than modern.
Unless your goal is to play in those two tournaments the format is accessible. Driving interest to it is a different issue and one that I don't see being fixed by any different number/style of companion printings.

@Protoaddict have you played any games with Lurrus?
Lotus, recall, brainstorm ,etc are all one-ofs randomized in a 60 card deck. Lurrus is available to you every game, whenever you want it, in a place no one can touch it. Companions are fundamentally different than all other cards. That's why people are looking at them differently.

For the past 27 years magic has been a game played by drawing 7 random cards. Gaining access to an 8th known card that cannot be interacted with is fundamentally different.

@Protoaddict have you played any games with Lurrus?
Lotus, recall, brainstorm ,etc are all one-ofs randomized in a 60 card deck. Lurrus is available to you every game, whenever you want it, in a place no one can touch it. Companions are fundamentally different than all other cards. That's why people are looking at them differently.

I'm not talking about kitchen table. I mean weekly/monthly tournaments that are still held which allow 15 proxies. There may be others but the only truly sanctioned events I'm aware of in the US where u cannot proxy are EW and SCG con. Also online most vintage decks are cheaper than modern.
Unless your goal is to play in those two tournaments the format is accessible. Driving interest to it is a different issue and one that I don't see being fixed by any different number/style of companion printings.

@Protoaddict mox ruby is free to proxy and costs $2 online. Similar for the rest of the power. Vintage in its current form is accessible for all but 1 or 2 tournaments a year.

@MaximumCDawg no wouldn't describe it as the new brainstorm in legacy. It's a card that you know op has every game and if you want to be competitive you also have it every game in a zone that can't be interacted with. After you play a couple matches you'll see its really more of a chess match to see who can deplete the others resources and stick lurrus. Whoever does that will bury the the op in card advantage and win at some point afterwards. Then start over and repeat.

Most of this discussion seems to be theory or just based on the notion that nothing can every be banned in vintage. Has anyone in here played vintage or legacy online since companions were released? It's miserable. I love both these formats and if they don't make a change (bannings) i have no desire to play them.

I see this is sold out on EC website. Does anyone know if there are any thoughts of increasing the # of players?

@dracomnisgt where are you located?

@smmenen
I totally agree for the full 12 force list but I'm testing lessor # of forces + lesser # of powders with more accelerant (wraith & probe). 4 may still be the right # of powders but it also may be worth giving up a little consistency for more speed/evasion in the current meta. Atleast that's what I'm exploring.

@ajfirecracker
Can u point me to the math on running 1 or 2 powder?