Why would jvp not function through yixlid jailer?
- jailer doesn't stop you from interacting with cards in your graveyard.
- Even if jvp said, "target instant or sorcery in your graveyard gains flashback for it's mana cost" it would still work because of time stamps (think about humility vs mishra's factory).
Jailer never stopped will either. If that helps at all. Basically Jailer is very good against dredge and cards that have flashback or trigger from the yard, and bad against basically every other graveyard interaction (reanimation, snapcaster, jvp, will).
I got the first Competitive Vintage League Trophy of the July 2-Sept 24th season with Pitch Dredge.
My MVP? 4 Leyline of Sanctity. I beat opponents who had literally 4 Rav Traps in hand tonight, and another player who literally played 4 Tormod's Crypts over the course of one game.
One more reason as always against dredge to be on diverse answers. I played W Karndrazi splash black for jailer and cage out of the board with containment priest main to battle the menace. I think i want to be on creature-based hate atm against you? Though i do like the sickening shoal tech.
Turning to proxies is not something most people tend to accept because they know they'll never own those cards and that's a dealbreaker. In Legacy people use proxies because they're testing stuff and WILL get those cards later, one day. Vintage is impossible.
So, when i started playing vintage i definitely wouldn't have started without proxies, but I also assumed i would never own the cards. Turned out I was wrong, i eventually got some power, and then i sold it for life reasons, but still get to play because of proxies.
I am surprised that the "I might really own this" is the divider between wanting to use proxies or not, since that wasn't my experience. Can you get a little more into that mindset?