I think it's all ridiculous. I wish I could be Bill Gates and just buy all the cards and give them to players and not speculators, for free.

Library from $300 to $800 in a month. Moat from $300 to $600, Tabernacle TCG Mid is $1,500 now??? Even though they are fake values, price memory is ridiculous and now the dealers will raise all their prices.

The whole reserved list situation just sucks. I wish they could just create some type of legal proxy that would let people play. MTGO isn't enough.. I'll admit, I'm a moderate so I'm in no way trying to say we should "Feel the Bern" with Magic, but it's just becoming too out of reach.

Long-live Proxy Tourneys I guess!!!

The best way to do it is look at your collection, come up with a number ($15K?$20K?), and then just stick to your guns until you get what you are happy with. Expecting to price individually and not get offers at only 50 to 60% of it will be tough, especially since the Old School market has cooled down and most likely wont pick up again until March/April/Tax Season in the US. I can quickly flip through my "brag book" and quote a number that I'd part with the cards for; it's all just cardboard anyways right?

@wretchedcamel I think the only place he can be played might be 93/94. I had a goofy Living Plane/Tim/Instill Energy deck put together for 93/94 that was able to squeak out a few matches but only after playing the long game as a control deck. I might try again and bring it to the Eternal Central Event this year. At least i'd score a few creativity points.

Hi there! I don't live anywhere near you but i'm hopeful for your event's success. I was curious where you had these playmats purchased from? These looked a lot nicer than inkedgaming and we're exploring playmats for our old school group. thanks for your time!!!!

@walking.dude maybe this is just my interpretation, but I thought the idea of the conversation was that maybe the format needed something unrestricted that was a bit broken, so that at least there was something not shops, not mentor, that was an option; same idea with the Flash unrestriction, but maybe that was just how I digested the information. while that might lead to some rock/paper/scissors match-ups, it may be better than the 2-deck format that everyone is talking about on trying to solve...

I really enjoy these podcasts; i currently subscribe to 12 podcasts, 3 or 4 are magic related, and this is the one I look forward to the most. Great job as always Steve & Kevin!

I'm at a point in my life where being able to play Magic is a luxury that I can't afford to do with drama involved. I deleted my Twitter account and Reddit account that I was primarily using for Magic related topics, because the Magic "culture" portrayed on those channels isn't the Magic that I encounter in real life, with this Left vs Right culture war permeating everything online. The internet of the late 90s seemed so much more exciting for us Magic players, now it's hard for me to stay interested in any social media because it so easily falls off track.

I'll stick to the Vintage Facebook group and this website, and other sites like Eternal Central for my article fix.. I mostly lurk on both of them, but at least they don't have all the drama on them (well, not as much drama, i'd say).

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/august-20-2018-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2018-08-20

No changes, and no commentary on thought process this time around.

Next announcement will be October 1st, 2018.

Can't find Painter's Servant so not sure can say it's better than Imperial Recruiter. In D&T, will be useful...

Interesting suggestion. I have to be honest, I've never looked at the thumbs and went straight to the topic title but maybe it just goes to how different people visually process things in their mind, who knows...

So excited for this. Got through the first hour on the way home from work tonight. 35 minutes on Sanctum Prelate and only 4 minutes on Recruiter of the Guard? The suspense is killing me!!!

This would only be dangerous to people investing in new magic product, which doesn't seem like a worthwhile endeavor for them to be doing anyways.

I think it's a cool idea, and a nice easy way for them to print things like fetch lands without having them in standard or other limited sets. If there were a box set of the 5 enemy fetches for $119.99, for example, i'm sure people would pick them up without destroying the market price on all existing copies.

I'm sure most of you are aware, but Modern Horizons has "art cards" which are essentially just full art cards with a blank back for artists to doodle on. I see some noise already that people are going to use these as proxys for the high-dollar cards for playtesting purposes or in casual games for the more expensive cards. Wizards could easily do this for Vintage cards and sell as "art" cards.

I still think at the end of the day, players want a supported format, and a healthy format (however that is defined by the masses), so not sure having more proxies will grow the player base.

The best way to do it is look at your collection, come up with a number ($15K?$20K?), and then just stick to your guns until you get what you are happy with. Expecting to price individually and not get offers at only 50 to 60% of it will be tough, especially since the Old School market has cooled down and most likely wont pick up again until March/April/Tax Season in the US. I can quickly flip through my "brag book" and quote a number that I'd part with the cards for; it's all just cardboard anyways right?

Disregard my directional question, I saw you just said North of Pgh. We typically play at Legions in the North Hills if you ever want to jam some vintage. Just give us a couple weeks to make sure the vintage guys are there.

@popedeuce37 which part of Pittsburgh are you generally from? i.e North, South, East, West? Me and a buddy have fully powered Vintage but we don't bring it out as we are typically playing old school or legacy most FNMs. I talked to Ron (Mr. Nice Guy) at EW as well, and he said if we could guarantee the 8 players more often, he'd consider doing Vintage at least quarterly again. I haven't had a chance to talk to him since then but plan on stopping out soon. He is strictly sanctioned but I wouldn't mind doing proxy stuff somewhere else if needed.

https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/august-20-2018-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2018-08-20

No changes, and no commentary on thought process this time around.

Next announcement will be October 1st, 2018.

Welcome @Vintage1993 , what part of the world are you from?

How did this go? Any dates/location yet for the next one?

Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I'll give it a go again as I haven't logged on in probably 2 years or so...

I have one of the nicer Ultrapro binders with the sewn in pages, to avoid binder dings, when not using specific P9 in decks. I have my P9 on one page, and a set of CE P9 on the opposite page.

If cards are in decks, they are just in whatever random deck box, but also sturdier deck boxes, double sleeved with perfect hards. (usually a combination of one vintage deck i'm focusing on at the time, and some 93/94 decks).

I do keep my "good stuff" binder far away from any other Magic cards in the chance that someone would try to rob my house and focus on the first area of Magic that they see...