@ten-ten flashing the oracle in? it lets you pay 1U instead of UU at the downside of needing to be at 0 cards, i guess. it also gets you through a counter by making them need to counter both, but unearth does that too for less mana.

@wfain said in Survival:

Anything it should have that I didn’t think of?

a screenshot, decklist, or at least a better picture. I see salvage titan so I'm intrigued, but I'm having trouble telling what most of those cards are

@desolutionist while WotC making the game too planeswalker-centric is a thing I will happily complain about, the viability of vintage doomsday is probably also far from what modern card design is or should be about.

@thewhitedragon69 those are pretty bad removal spells for anything other than this. most people don't build their 75 to beat doomsday

@protoaddict I was thinking it could replace lab maniac in the modern neoform deck but i actually think due to the way that deck works, which is drawing the last cards with grizelbrand, it actually can't. hmm. i think this will exist as a fringe legacy/modern card to a similar degree as labman, unless there's some way to turn it on that im missing.

people played more than 2 delve spells when it was possible to do so. if we treat breach like a delve spell playing 1 isn't that much strain. of course, I'm just skipping the step where this card is broken as hell and gets restricted in this model, because this card is broken as hell.

@vaughnbros notably, this card and divining witch cannot be cast off the same cavern, unlike labman

better than sentinel totem, if you were wanting to keep your own graveyard, while being a crypt/spellbomb effect that doesn't target.

@moorebrother1 there is no new interaction here, it's the same as snapcaster or anything else. the original spell is still on the stack until it is countered, so you can't cast it again in response to the counter.

@protoaddict I'm not sure mystic forge is a fair example. people don't put a bunch of sensei's top in their shop deck with only 1 mystic forge. agree with the main point, I think. this card is absurd, and does things even yawgwill doesn't.