Vintage Leagues 'coming' to MTGO

@joshuabrooks said in Vintage Leagues 'coming' to MTGO:

I think the leagues could be good. I know my cards have been gathering digital dust for a year, just because having two kids under 2, makes an online tourney a tough go. However a match here and there is super feasible.

What are the particulars of the leagues? How do they work?

If you can, try building a Legacy deck and playing a league to try it out. Basically they run for months, stop during downtime, then a new one starts. So you have lots and lots of time to finish league matches. They cost eight tickets or eighty play points and there are prizes depending on how you finish. Many people play all five matches in a row and do that over and over again, but people like me with the ol' wife, kid, job, etc, we seem to play them more slowly. They're a ton of fun, and I have wanted to play one with a Vintage deck for a long time.

You know, if people all logged on during the usual Daily Event times then the league match waiting period would probably shrink for that time period. Just saying... I bet that you could even message a buddy and stand a decent chance of being paired together, but I am only guessing.

Also I'd like to note that after Play Points but before leagues the Legacy Dailies were having trouble firing. Then they made leagues and the a ton of people signed up. If you have two months to finish a league it's easy to stay signed up for one at all times.

@Brass-Man But you are assuming that leagues will be operating off the current vintage daily player base.

A lot of the vintage league grinders use to play vintage dailies and I would say a lot will come back, every legacy league I see at least one user name that frequented vintage dailies in the past.

A lot of people sold out of vintage whilst waiting for leagues, some will come back as well as those who have been waiting to buy in for leagues.

There is a big amount of online vintage players who never have/will play in dailies due to timeslots.

Leagues can operate off 100 enrolled players.

@diophan There will be way more than a few online at a time.

Attending a daily event is next to impossible for me. But I would absolutely buy back into Vintage on MTGO for league play.

Leagues are also tricky in sense of time zones. Let's say that my available time slot is from 8~10pm CET, I will play against same group of players again and again, similar to 2 player queue right now. But that is me with my busy life, let's hope that this will be beneficial for online community since possibility to play Vintage even with same players always is better that no Vintage at all.

@matori Sure, vintage leagues on MTGO will probably be a bit like that. Nonetheless, judging from the very active tournament practice room in MTGO recently, I would say that there would be enough variation in opponents. I also think it is just nice to have the added value to matches in that you might win a small price if you do well, and receive some kind of rank : ). When I started playing Vintage online (switching from Standard) it was a huge dissapointment that there were no leagues since that was my only way of playing organized magic (and still mostly is). I think this will be a positive thing overall.

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Vintage Leagues should be seen with a different approach (different from the one provided by players in the US).

European players in MOL who want to play in the Vintage daylies have a really difficult time due to timezone differences. Being able to play in leagues where you know you will have a pool of people in your same timezone who can play will be a huge difference. Additionally, if you are in Europe you will be able to play in your afternoon/nightime vs. US players for a round or whatever istead of having to play 4 rounds until very late at night (a concern I have heard many times by MODO Vintage European players).

Hope this is a move forward for the format.

@PeAcH Not just europe. Asia and Australia as well. In Australia you have to essentially be unemployed to play weekday vintage dailies ironically.

As someone who plays a lot of Legacy online, and wishes they could play Vintage - Leagues coming to MTGO is very attractive. I bought my power online today in preparation. It's not always convenient to join a daily, and whilst the tournament feel is nice, convenience really is king. Looking forward to seeing everyone on the battlefield!

@Supertimland I keep reading about these leagues but don't understand them at all. How does this affect me as an Australian?

@twerkshops In leagues you play a total of five (or is it four?) matches against random opponents BUT you can play each match whenever it suits you the best. You don't have to play all five in one evening as in the dailies. Play them over the course of a week or two if you like. Of course, you'll still need to have someone to play against when you can play.

@kistrand Ah that's what they are. So do you get assigned a random opponent and then have to organise when you play your matches against them? What happens if you can't agree on a time?

Sorry if this is covered somewhere, I scoured as many information sources as I could remember after selling out two years ago but could only find details on payouts that assumed the reader knows how they work.

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@twerkshops no, basically the "league" is just a pool of currently active players for the given format, as soon as you go to start a game, the program just selects one available random player and your match begins as soon as they click "Ready." You might have to wait a few moments, but there is no scheduling or anything.

We haven't heard anything more on this, right?

@H. Oh wow, that sounds ideal. I wonder if there would be enough people on it to not have to spend all evening logged in to get one game.

@twerkshops In Europe there won't be a problem since I feel there are a lot of different people online every evening, but I am unsure about Australia of course. Sure, you might end up playing a lot of the same opponents but I still think it's a good option to facing the same opponents in Tournament practice room all the time.

Any news about this topic?

@kistrand I know 11 people personally at my one LGS that have vintage online, but we cannot play dailies as we all work whilst dailies are firing (11am-1pm).

I also know a fair few legacy players at mt LGS who bought into vintage during VMA but then sold out either when wizards pulled the rug out after VMA or jumped ship when legacy leagues became a thing.

So leagues would help the 2 dozen or so people from my area who just cannot do dailies. And there must be other such pockets out there, especially europe.

My fear of having Vintage leagues is that it causes a small player base to have no focused time to meet and play. This is why Daily events (DE's) are needed.
I have seen the repercussions of a similar ideal with increasing the amount of DE's throughout the week. What ended up happening was that none of the events fired as it was more unfocused.
Now, not to say Vintage leagues couldn't succeed. Having leagues will attract a lot of new players and current people that cannot commit to a DE or are intimidated to play in one will be inclined to try a League.
It will be interesting to see, but history is relevant here and I suspect Vintage leagues will not be successful.

If Leagues are instituted for Vintage, will all of the DEs be taken away?

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