The Gitrog Monster, thoughts and idea's.
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@Lodestone said:
I'm not saying this is the end all be all new tech @Soly but I think it could be worth exploring as it is a new style of creature that could enter vintage.
Sorry to bother you, but you do know the quote in your signature is actually wrong, right?
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@minniehajj thanks, fixed it, tired and at work stil...
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This card is the bees knees in UBg Landstill. It is absolutely insane when paired with Crucible of Worlds or Life from the Loam. Easily being Drain'ed into is another plus. This card definitely affects match ups in a significant way.
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It doesn't get bounced by Thing In The Ice.
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This card has so much flavor that even Emeril wouldn't salt it, but i don't think its a vintage playable. The contraption seems hard to assemble, and the upside isn't high enough.
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@SeanOhh One person playing the card to moderate success does not make a card "playable".
I once won a Mox with Fathom Seers back when Gush was restricted.
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@Soly several people have put up results with Chandra beyond Sean. Recently at the BMI three different Moon decks t8'd all featuring her. The card is real.
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@Soly my Chandra comment was completely tongue-in-cheek. While I love the card, I don't generally recommend anyone else play it (despite it being the best card in vintage).
Elementals are ideas given form. This one is the idea of "smashitude."
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@SeanOhh it's a hell of a card if it gets in play.
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@Lodestone no doubt. Still have yet to lose with it in play. It's the getting it into play part...
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This is the quintessential teaser card that we vintage players have to put up with. The stats and abilities just make us drool. But the CC is prohibitive. Although I could see this as a win con in many of the g/b control decks I encounter who's controllers claim with their dying breath are a valid, active and competitive part of their local meta. Don't see those in the NE, though.
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If you're going to be paying 5 mana at sorcery speed in Vintage it better win you the game. There are ways to cheat this into play, but I can't imagine a realistic set of circumstances where this card is what you want to be landing off of show and tell or Oath.
EDIT: Didn't RTFC; Am a noob
Meddling Mike posts so loudly that nobody can get a post in edgewise.
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This card is loads of fun in EDH, but not in Vintage. Compare to Vedalkan Archmage.
Also, jokes: https://twitter.com/kevincron/status/712675672821514241
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@Meddling-Mike sadly only one draw, it is case by case, so mass events don't trigger multiple draws.
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@Samoht It's slightly more unplayable than I realized.
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@Meddling-Mike I look forward to unplaying it soon to victory.
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@Samoht said:
@Meddling-Mike sadly only one draw, it is case by case, so mass events don't trigger multiple draws.
Mass events like hitting 3 lands from a dredge 6 or all the lands that get dumped from an oath trigger hit it once. But if you activate bazaar and dredge both draws, this can trigger twice. And each of those draws if you dredge can trigger it again. The only problem with that scenario for dredge is if you have a 5 mana castable creature in play, you've already won so this would actually weaken dredge despite the apparent synergy.
However also consider a wasteland.
Activate wasteland, targeting opponents land. Trigger draw.
Resolve wasteland and destroy opponents land. Trigger draw.I do think this could be a sneaky win con in a specific type of control deck. But that doesn't mean it will see play or is 'vintageable' in a general sense.
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@Khahan said:
However also consider a wasteland.
Activate wasteland, targeting opponents land. Trigger draw.
Resolve wasteland and destroy opponents land. Trigger draw.This only triggers for lands put into your graveyard, otherwise that would be a whole different beast.
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Ah, TMD, where "playable" so often just means "Vintage legal."
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@Wagner said:
@Khahan said:
However also consider a wasteland.
Activate wasteland, targeting opponents land. Trigger draw.
Resolve wasteland and destroy opponents land. Trigger draw.This only triggers for lands put into your graveyard, otherwise that would be a whole different beast.
I saw graveyard and 'from anywhere'. Ok, not as powerful as I thought.
