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    • diophan
      diophan last edited by diophan

      We were fortunate to have an influx of players this month, with 69 players total.

      Congratulations to thediabetical for taking the tournament down with Ravager TKS Shops.

      Top 8:
      thediabetical - Ravager TKS Shops
      kingneckbeard - Pitch Dredge
      Lux-Adrastos - DPS
      ravidel85 - Tezz
      littledarwin - UW Mentor
      Lexor19 - WR Eldrazi
      TKC55 - Doomsday
      neo_altoid - Ravager TKS Shops

      Remaining 5-2s:
      oddseidank - 2 Card Monte with Intuition
      Garlan - Esper Mentor
      pedroj - Ravager TKS Shops with Reality Smasher
      Legion273 - Dredge
      Atog_215 - Esper Mentor
      diophan - Grixis Therapy
      Thiim - UB Ratstill

      Top16 Decklists: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/vintage-premier-2016-08-29

      Metagame Breakdown:
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      Shops continued its streak from Waterbury with a strong performance. After a dryspell, Dredge came back to do well today. Part of this may be due to players skimping on dredge hate due to its slimming percentage of the metagame recently; I can personally attest to cutting dredge hate in my list in favor of more cards against thorn archetypes.

      Link to googledoc:
      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lEQCm8GMM-jAZBlo-XUqozy5fx3AMprdLxHmMYXFzc0/edit?usp=sharing

      Let me know if anyone spots errors.

      EDIT: There was an incorrect formula in about 8 of the matches in round 6. I corrected this and updated the charts above.

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      • The Atog Lord
        The Atog Lord last edited by

        As always, Ryan, this is a huge service to the community. Thank you for doing so much work to keep us informed and aware.

        "On the other hand, they have admitted that text matters." -- Smmenen

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        • TurboK
          TurboK last edited by

          Thank you Ryan, you are doing great work. Legend!

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          • HatchetWoundHero
            HatchetWoundHero last edited by

            Would really love to see the pitch dredge list!

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              Apokkalippz7 @HatchetWoundHero last edited by

              @HatchetWoundHero http://www.themanadrain.com/topic/572/2nd-place-in-the-august-power-9-challenge-videos/3

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              • Juggernaut GO
                Juggernaut GO TMD Supporter last edited by

                i timed out and kicked from the event at the start of rnd 3 due to waiting for my chinese food derivery.

                was having a lot of fun storming with u/b/w landstill too...

                mind's desire fits in every deck!

                still trolling, just on youtube instead of the mana drain.
                youtube.com/bocenterprises

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                • ?
                  A Former User last edited by A Former User

                  I learned something that won't show up in Ryan's numbers:

                  Ubastax is an awesome deck; Ensnaring Bridge is a game ending spell in most matches, but utimately this format is no longer a home for true prison control decks. In this format you need something dynamic. Like my Ensnaring Bridges would have also had to have hexproof, have 3/2 first strike bodies, and make my opponents spells cost more. My Uba Masks should have been more like Thought-Knot Seers, which discard a card and attack/block as a 4/4. Cards need to be flexible.

                  I lost to Lexor19 (White Eldrazi). Game 3 he got down that turn 1 New Thalia, which was pretty impressive.

                  I lost to a Dredge deck. I cut down to 3 dredge hate because I figured Ensnaring Bridge would help out and it did, but in game 3 he just got off a Serenity.

                  I lost to a Storm deck in game 3; once again to Serenity.

                  So had my prison deck not been so slow and linear, those Serenities never would have happened. That White Thalia wins every time though. I'm not sure what to do about that.

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                  • Leoj
                    Leoj @Juggernaut GO last edited by

                    @Juggernaut-GO said:

                    i timed out and kicked from the event at the start of rnd 3 due to waiting for my chinese food derivery.

                    was having a lot of fun storming with u/b/w landstill too...

                    mind's desire fits in every deck!

                    Gonna need to see this list.

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                      thediabetical last edited by

                      Thank you guys for turning out these numbers, the tournament was a blast despite many poor plays on my own behalf. Shout out to Kingneckbeard on his performance, I believe he was one of the innovators of his dredge build with Marit Lage access. Despite beating him in the finals he was my one loss on the day.

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                      • Islandswamp
                        Islandswamp TMD Supporter last edited by

                        Just out of curiosity, how long do these usually take?
                        I'm going to try like hell to get a babysitter so I can play in one of these finally.

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                        • ajfirecracker
                          ajfirecracker @Islandswamp last edited by

                          @Islandswamp Between rounds I put up a graphic on stream with estimated time until next round, 50 minutes from round start to round start seems to be reasonably accurate on average

                          "Pitch Dredge is the worst thing to happen to Vintage this decade." - 2015 Vintage Champion Brian Kelly

                          youtube.com/user/ajfirecracker/videos
                          twitch.tv/ajfirecracker

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                          • ?
                            A Former User last edited by

                            For 0-2 drop, about 1 hour. 😄

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                            • Islandswamp
                              Islandswamp TMD Supporter @Guest last edited by

                              @desolutionist If I pay to play, I'll lose all the rounds if I have to. I'll get that value somehow.

                              Check out my articles on www.MTGGoldfish.com - Follow me on Twitter @josephfiorinijr - Islandswamp on Magic Online - Support more content @ https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4271290

                              I was a hand grenade that never stopped exploding...

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                              • TurboK
                                TurboK @Islandswamp last edited by

                                @Islandswamp If you don't make top 8 and play all rounds approx 6 hours 🙂

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                                  Arianeira last edited by

                                  Nice to see the results so quickly. Thank you.

                                  I tried to play in this after scrubbing out of GP Indy but updating MTGO on hotel wifi didn't work so well so I literally was about to clicked on join when it fired. 😞 Watched The_Atog_Lord stream for a little bit before going out with friends. One of these days I will play in one of these just usually out doing something on a Saturday.

                                  Lists are up here
                                  http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/vintage-premier-2016-08-29

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                                      Minkar last edited by

                                      How come the Ratstill deck is considered "BUG"? I dont see any green in it. Is that just due to it playing some of the disruption elements seen in BUG (crucible/wastes/null rods)?

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                                      • diophan
                                        diophan @Minkar last edited by diophan

                                        @Minkar It's because I watched a couple replays and I thought it was a deck a couple people ran in the Northeast which included green. It can be easy to make small mistakes like that when trying to figure out so many decks in a short amount of time. I corrected the deckname on the googledoc but forgot to on this post, so thanks for pointing it out.

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                                          Smmenen TMD Supporter last edited by Smmenen

                                          This is the lowest win %age we've seen for Gush decks in some time (perhaps this year?). I'm curious what folks make of it. One of the arguments against being concerned about that metric is that, with large numbers of players, decks tend towards the mean. Yet, a 43.5% win rate is well below the mean.

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                                          • ajfirecracker
                                            ajfirecracker @Smmenen last edited by ajfirecracker

                                            Re-Sampling Link
                                            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QpZ0IccGk5SoY54TJBeTZdvdmJ_ysPVKrQLWAHjAggM/edit?usp=sharing

                                            Most of the decks that struggle against Gush are bad against the field overall (based on this data). Most of the decks that are strong against Gush are also good against the field overall (based on this data). This suggests Gush may have a systemic issue in the current metagame, so it either has to reverse the matchup on Shops, Eldrazi, or Dredge or hope that someone else pushes those decks out of the metagame.

                                            To illustrate:
                                            The "expectation" for Gush is actually 46.19% win-rate in this dataset. If you take the observed win% in each matchup and the observed metagame share of each deck and multiply them, you will end up with a 46.19% win-rate. This can be thought of as the expected Round 1 win-rate of Gush decks. (Round 1 because it is against all decks in the event, so no one has dropped out or entered a different bracket)

                                            (Discovered an error and @diophan corrected it, so Gush's Round 1 rate is actually 46% and not 49%)

                                            "Pitch Dredge is the worst thing to happen to Vintage this decade." - 2015 Vintage Champion Brian Kelly

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