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    • diophan
      diophan last edited by diophan

      52 players registered for the P9 Challenge this month. Luckily I was able to take it down with a list similar to what I played last month, incorporating a couple changes Rich and I made to the deck for this trimester of VSL. Congratulations to the rest of the top 8!

      Top 8:

      1. diophan - Grixis Pyromancer
      2. Becks84 - DPS
      3. Princess_Power - Esper Mentor
      4. i_b_TRUE - Grixis Thieves with Remora
      5. ChubbyRain - Jeskai Nahiri Gush
      6. ConradKolos - UW Landstill
      7. desolutionist - TKS Vault/Key Gifts
      8. Lexor19 - White Eldrazi

      Remaining 4-2s:

      1. wappla - Jeskai Delver
      2. thediabetical - Esper Landstill
      3. MRP900 - DPS
      4. nucleosynth - Grixis Pyromancer
      5. Call1Me1Dragon - White Eldrazi
      6. maciek1618033 - Thing in the Ice Storm
      7. Boin - White Eldrazi
      8. Egget - Jeskai Mentor
      9. oRS - Burning Omnioath
      10. evouga - Control Oath

      Top 16 Decklists:
      http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/vintage-premier-2016-07-31

      Metagame Breakdown:
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      A few things that immediately jump out at me. First, the top decklists were very diverse, with some truly innovative lists. Gush was a huge chunk of the metagame, but even after removing mirror matches had only a 50% winrate. The other big takeaway for me was the disappointing performance by shops, in particular versus gush. Matt noted that a larger percentage of the gush decks were lower to the ground with JVP, which assuredly contributed to this.

      This time around we decided to post a link to the googledoc. The reason is twofold. First, if you see any errors please let us know (we removed all wins resulting from byes and no show opponents). Additionally, if anyone would like to play around with the data using different classifications than we did, you can do so by copying our read-only googledoc. If you want to and have questions on how the formulas work, shoot one of us a PM.

      Link to the googledoc:
      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bw83RAwwspCi8DAS30Kvt0zRtCEBXDmt2bjKilpAJzY/edit?usp=sharing

      As usual, huge thanks to @ChubbyRain for working with me to compile the data.

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        A Former User @diophan last edited by A Former User

        @diophan said:

        1. maciek1618033 - Thing in the Ice Storm

        For clarification, I watched a couple of maciek1618033 games and it looked very similar to my UBw Blizzard deck from a while ago. I didn't see Tendrils but it Thing, Cabal Therapy, Jace TMS, Snapcaster and a white splash for removal were all present.

        Oh and congrats on the repeat, Ryan 🙂

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        • CHA1N5
          CHA1N5 last edited by

          Thanks, as usual, and nice job to both of you!

          Host of the So Many Insane Plays podcast.

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            evouga last edited by

            Congrats everyone who made top 8! Especially for desolutionist, who expertly dismantled me in Round 4.

            And thanks diophan for gathering the matchup data -- how are you able to do this? Does MTGO allow you to export tournament data?

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            • diophan
              diophan @evouga last edited by

              @evouga Unfortunately not. Matt and I have it set up to parse WER files for paper tournaments, but there's nothing like that for online tournaments. Once an event is concluded, all the participants are allowed to watch the replays. From these, we figure out what type of deck everyone is playing. We also need to enter who played whom each round, along with the result. Thankfully Matt cleaned up the way we were previously doing this, so we can do the latter task while the tournament is still going on while we're waiting for the next round to start.

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                A Former User @evouga last edited by

                @evouga MTGO can't even give players with the higher seed choice of play draw... We input round by round results manually and use replays to classify decks.

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                  A Former User last edited by

                  Many thanks mangs.

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                  • brianpk80
                    brianpk80 last edited by

                    Congratulations to Ryan (diophan) and the rest of the Top.

                    Samantha: “Matt, the deck lost to Merfolk.”
                    Matt: “I don’t build decks to beat Merfolk. In any format.”

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                      A Former User last edited by

                      further proof that gush is too much of the meta and that storm is still the best deck of the format. thank you data charts. btw what exactly is other? did someone play a sweet off the wall deck you couldnt identify?

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                        evouga last edited by

                        I sometimes see rogue decks like Infect+Blazing Shoal, Elves, Lorescale Coatl aggro, etc in the 1 vs 1 queues. I'm guessing some of these are legacy decks that people are trying powered versions of.

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                          A Former User @Guest last edited by

                          @snowydude said:

                          further proof that gush is too much of the meta and that storm is still the best deck of the format. thank you data charts. btw what exactly is other? did someone play a sweet off the wall deck you couldnt identify?

                          BG Painter's Grindstone/Death's Shadow/Spoils of the Vault/Blood Pet 0-X goodness...

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                            A Former User @evouga last edited by

                            @evouga said:

                            I sometimes see rogue decks like Infect+Blazing Shoal, Elves, Lorescale Coatl aggro, etc in the 1 vs 1 queues. I'm guessing some of these are legacy decks that people are trying powered versions of.

                            You are being optimistic...one player in one Power 9 ran what appeared to be a M15 Precon. He stuck it out the entire event and ended up 1-6.

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                              rikter @Guest last edited by

                              @snowydude said:

                              further proof that gush is too much of the meta and that storm is still the best deck of the format. thank you data charts. btw what exactly is other? did someone play a sweet off the wall deck you couldnt identify?

                              Im not gonna get into gush, but there is no way DPS is the best deck of the format, not in paper anyways

                              Don't trust your secrets to the sea.

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                                maciek16180 @Guest last edited by maciek16180

                                @ChubbyRain I got the idea from your post in TiTI discussion thread some time ago, so thanks. It's getting less and less stormy though.

                                Congrats to the winners!

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                                  A Former User @rikter last edited by

                                  @rikter im just going to go with "scoreboard" 66.7% win rate against the field. just edging oath out by 5ish%

                                  wait wait how can you claim dps is not the best paper deck? what pratell do you think is the best paper deck. also while your at it whats the best online deck?

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                                  • Hrishi
                                    Hrishi @Guest last edited by

                                    @snowydude The sample size is way too small to start making claims like that. There are a huge number of factors that influence every event. You can take "scoreboard" on it's own when the sample size is large enough to eliminate variance.

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                                      A Former User @Hrishi last edited by

                                      @Hrishi in case it wasnt obvious that post was somewat sarcastic. not 100% but ya know not super serious.

                                      how many players exactly do you want in a vintage sample size? its not like we can just throw a 300 man vintage event together.

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                                      • wappla
                                        wappla last edited by

                                        Congrats diophan on the back-to-back.

                                        Looks like one take-away is the return of black. 11/18 decks played it.

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                                          The Atog Lord @Guest last edited by

                                          @ChubbyRain said:

                                          one player in one Power 9 ran what appeared to be a M15 Precon. He stuck it out the entire event and ended up 1-6.

                                          Everybody knows that if you want to win a Vintage tournament, you need to use the Jace precon.

                                          Kidding aside, congratulations to Ryan for back-to-back victories.

                                          More than that, big thanks to Ryan and Matt for doing this analysis for us.

                                          "On the other hand, they have admitted that text matters." -- Smmenen

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                                            Princess_Power last edited by

                                            congrats @diophan for knocking me out of two of these in a row!

                                            🙂

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