Current Decks for Casual 5-color Vintage (mono-W ideas?)

[schmakt]

Has anyone done this recently where I might be able to just steal a bunch of decklists? I'm trying to build 5 mono decks that aren't just old-school cards so that I can have a game night round-robin kind of situation.

Each deck should be mono, use only the 1 in-color Mox, (and maybe the Chrome), Lotus, (maybe Petal), be mildly competitive but, mostly, be competitive in the metagame I'm trying to create and be fun to play...

I'm saving Blue til last, (is there ever a reason you wouldn't run Walk/Recall in mono-U??) but I'm having trouble finding anything to base my white deck on right now. I never really played White and only really knew it as White Weenie, but this aggro deck looks like a good starting point: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4754768#paper

Would have to drop some of the jewelry of course... no real need for Wastelands...

Before I run out and start trying to build this thing, does anyone have any suggestions? Here are the 3 G/B/R decks I'm working with right now... still fiddling with them as G is pretty dominant. (none of these are mine... I lifted some decks online somewhere and made some minor modifications)

Green Channel
(I'd like to find a place for 2 copies of a Planeswalker, but I don't know who... Wren and Seven?)
Sol Ring
Mana Crypt
Black Lotus
Mox Emerald
Chrome Mox
10x Forest

4x Wurmcoil Engine
4x Rosheen Meanderer
4x Genesis Hydra
2x Rhonas the Indomitable
4x Mistcutter Hydra
4x Elvish Spirit Guide
4x Arbor Elf (can swap for Llanowar in the SB)
1x Emrakul, the Aeons Torn

4x Tooth and Nail
4x Green Sun's Zenith
4x Genesis Wave
1x Cultivate
1x Channel

4x Utopia Sprawl

Black Land Destruction
Black Lotus
Mox Jet
15x Swamp
Strip Mine

4x Black Vise (thinking I will drop one for a Petal)
4x Dark Ritual
4x Cabal Ritual
2x Hero's Downfall

4x Sinkhole
4x Ice Quake
4x Rain of Tears
3x Befoul
Yawgmoth's Will

2x Liliana of the Dark Realms

4x Desecration Demon
4x Bloodgift Demon
2x Master of the Feast (maybe 2 more of these and 1 less of each of the above)

Red Burn
Black Lotus
Mox Ruby
Sol Ring
13x Mountain
4x Arid Mesa

Chandra Torch of Defiance

4x Vexing Devil
4x Monastery Swiftspear
2x Bonecrusher Giant

Wheel of Fortune
4x Chain Lightning
4x Lava Spike
4x Browbeat
4x Flame Rift
Fiery Confluence

4x Lightning Bolt
4x Shock (was Price of Progress, but that didn't make sense here)
2x Fireblast
Smash to Smithereens (prolly will lose this too... maybe another Chandra)

anyway... sorry if this is the wrong place...
but if anyone has any ideas I'd love to hear!
Thanks

[Botvinik]

Mono white eldrazi has historically been a force in vintage and the null rod version never ran the jewelry to begin with.

[schmakt]

@botvinik I ended up going Hatebears with Lurus... and just put the jewelry in...
It holds it's own against mono-U Murktide/Thing in the Ice (the decklist for which I stole from here)

Mono-green is prolly mid-tier

And the B/R above are bottom tier unless you get the right draw. Added Breach and Ball Lightning (I just love the card!) to R... and actually Jet Medallion... black is the worst usual due to not getting enough quick mana. Prolly needs a chrome Mox and/or Opal too...

Still working on it, but so far this is working out well, is pretty fun, and is garnering some attention from EDH players to hop over for a few games.

Might try to switch the Black to old school Necro and maybe Red to Goblins... but for now this project is working out well

[Botvinik]

@schmakt

Necro is a very fun card and if the aim is to get new players into the format DPS/TPS decks seem like a good start both offering a peak into the broken fun possible in vintage and a natural progression to playing the more viable blue tinker decks as the players attempt to tune out the inconsistency and fragility issues.

[schmakt]

Re: Current Decks for Casual 5-color Vintage (mono-W ideas?)

I ended up putting all of the Moxen in the green deck and pulling back on some of the search spells... it's much better now...

Made some changes to the red as well...
Adding Ball Lightning (Lotus/Ball is still just the best when it happens) and some more card draw: Light Up the Stage and Valakut Exploration

Now they both are playing ok online... black is struggling hard though...
haven't dropped the $$ to build Blue online yet...
Any thoughts about smoothing out Black?
I've added some Tormod's Crypts (SB) and Spheres of Resistance and cut back on the land destruction a bit. Only 5 demons running and the pair of drain lifes to win...
Black is the least fun to play...

[revengeanceful]

@schmakt I just don't see how the black deck will ever be competitive with the others given its focus on land destruction and the use of demons as the win conditions. If I was trying to do something casual competitive with black, I'd either go with Storm combo or some sort of aggressive deck with cheap creatures and hand destruction (Thoughtseize, Duress, etc.).

[Botvinik]

DPS seems the maost natural place to go with a mono/heavily black vintage deck in general and is more beginner friendly then the control/combo hybrids like doomsday or tinker.

[schmakt]

@revengeanceful said in Current Decks for Casual 5-color Vintage (mono-W ideas?):

@schmakt I just don't see how the black deck will ever be competitive with the others given its focus on land destruction and the use of demons as the win conditions. If I was trying to do something casual competitive with black, I'd either go with Storm combo or some sort of aggressive deck with cheap creatures and hand destruction (Thoughtseize, Duress, etc.).

The more I mess with it the more I am in agreement... I've only been able to get that single MTGO win with it by way of a Drain Life. LD as an attempt to get Black Vise to fire is just useless. Dropping the Vises completely and going with disruption instead seems better. And will give me a reason to play some Fallen Empires cards with that killer Quinton Hoover (R.I.P.) art! Lotus/Ritual + Hippie is at least as much fun as Lotus/Ball Lightning too....

@botvinik said in Current Decks for Casual 5-color Vintage (mono-W ideas?):

DPS seems the maost natural place to go with a mono/heavily black vintage deck in general and is more beginner friendly then the control/combo hybrids like doomsday or tinker.

DPS, in general, seems relies a lot on U to get the Storm count up, but... a non-lethal Tendrils can still flip a game.

Thank you both!
I'm going to drop all of the 3-cost LD, the Vises, and most (maybe all) of the Demons and see what I can do with more disruption and smaller guys. Maybe even find a place for equally badass Ron Spencer FE art on the black Order

EDIT: Goodness... Thoughtseize damned near as expensive online as it is on paper. That might be down the road.

[schmakt]

ok, this is working much better even against the random MTGO meta... I almost never even cast Tendrils though... almost always end up slotting them out for Tormod's or Create Removal, depending... still needs some work... I'd be happy with a 33% win rate.
Thank you guys for your suggestions!!

Swamp x15 (prolly at least 1 too many)
Strip Mine x1
Wasteland x2

Black Lotus
Mox Jet
Jet Medallion (I know, I know... but against non-super-competitive decks it can be money)
Tormod's Crypt

Banehound x2 (haste and lifegain? please.)
Dark Ritual x4
Duress x4
Vampiric Tutor (basically only for Will)

Cabal Ritual x3 (almost ready to get rid of these)
Chains of Mephistopheles x2 (secret tech! secret PROXY tech... wow $$)
Demonic Tutor (Will he or won't he Will)
Hymn to Tourach x4
Order of the Ebon Hand x2 (Fallen Empires doesn't suck!!!!)
Sinkhole x4 (zapping the sole Volcanic in a Breach deck feels good... and I just love these black-bordered beauties)

Mind Drain x2 (I dunno... it fits the theme...?)
Yawgmoth's will (duh)
Hero's Downfall (I need to replace this main deck... really wanted to include Beta Terror... but... artifacts........)
Hyptnotic Spectre x4

Lilliana of the Dark Realms x2
Tendrils of Agony x1 (I tried with 4... it just wasn't working)

Drain Life x1 (I just love winning on a DL...)

Sideboard
Tormod's Crypt x3
Terror x4 (I've never used them... they need to go)
Order of the Ebon Hand x2
Dark Banishing x2 (these are actually helpful)
Hero's Downfall
Tendrils of Agony x3 (again... never used)

This is MUCH better than the previous build... obviously still some work to do, but thank you guys again!