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      Daniel Worobec last edited by

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      Was thinking of previous builds that used Mishra's Workshop and Bazaar of Baghdad.

      Any thoughts?

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        Protoaddict last edited by

        Saw this and felt like it might just be too much work. Shops generally do not want to spend a turn not building board to instead do something cute and if bazaar is the only discard outlet this feels slow.

        I'll admit I like the idea of godhanding a turn 1 bazaar into 2 moxen into this into activating the bazaar and pitching more 0 cost artifacts, but it honestly feels like it might be a worse play than just playing shops and spheres. If you need to draw cards there are plenty of artifacts that do that too. Hell even this guy probably does the job.

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          Botvinik @Protoaddict last edited by

          @protoaddict

          Whats with the bankbuster I dont see what that has to do with the post?

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          • John Cox
            John Cox @Daniel Worobec last edited by John Cox

            @daniel-worobec Someone bought out all the artificer's intuitions out there because of containment construct. There's a combo with it and LED.
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              Botvinik @John Cox last edited by

              @john-cox

              Obviously really good but is there a kill?

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                John Cox @Botvinik last edited by

                @botvinik
                I think it involves Wishclaw talisman and Tendrils of Agony. This is a legacy deck and I don't really follow that format.

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                  Boogdish last edited by

                  Survival Of The Fittest isn't much of a deck anymore, but this seems great for it. It can be tutored so you don't need to run 4x, lets you pitch hollow ones to survival and still cast them, lets you make land drops when a bazaar is active.

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                    Wagner @Boogdish last edited by

                    Interesting to note that you MAY exile that card. You may also let it go to the graveyard if it's a Vengevine or a target for Goblin Welder or other.

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                      LieNielsen @Botvinik last edited by LieNielsen

                      @botvinik the kill is to generate infinite mana with Elixir of immortality and then Intuition for Ballista

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                        chubbyrain1 last edited by

                        Notable other interactions:

                        • To @Wagner's point, this breaks the symmetry of LED + Echo of Eons. You can stockpile cards if needed (Keeping a Force floating during Echoes seems solid)

                        • This card is functionally similar to Daredevil in the Riddlesmith deck. It might be an upgrade as it is an artifact for Opal and compatible with Lurrus if you are so inclined.

                        • Can't combo with LEDs in Vintage but plenty of restricted artifacts to ramp. Map + Academy + Candelabra for shennanigans? Interesting, at least.

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                          LieNielsen @chubbyrain1 last edited by LieNielsen

                          This line would net 1 mana for each Feldon’s Cane in your deck:

                          UU up front

                          while Feldon’s Cane == true:
                          u - discard lotus, get LED
                          0 - replay lotus and sacrifice for uuu
                          u - discard LED, get Feldon’s Cane
                          u - discard Cane get random artifact
                          1 - replay Feldon’s Cane and LED
                          u - stack intuition
                          0 - sacrifice LED for uuu
                          0 - activate Cane
                          0 - resolve Intuition for Lotus

                          On a side note, could LED be unrestricted?

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                            Wagner @LieNielsen last edited by Wagner

                            @lienielsen said in [NEO] Containment Construct:

                            This line would net 1 mana for each Feldon’s Cane in your deck:

                            So a maximum of 4 mana? Doesn't seem amazing.

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                              Daniel Worobec last edited by

                              I know this is forum is intended for Vintage, there have been some activity relating to a combo with Legacy. Just for kicks and giggles here is something I have been working on for a while in Legacy that can participate in the combo that some may find interesting if you don't mind if I share:

                              4x Containment Construct
                              2x Artificer's Intuition
                              1x Elixir of Immortality
                              1x Walking Ballista
                              4x Salvage Titan
                              4x Frogmite
                              4x Memnite
                              4x Diamond Lion
                              4x Mystic Forge
                              4x Echo of Eons
                              4x Mishra’s Bauble
                              4x Chalice of the Void
                              4x Urza’s Saga
                              4x Ancient Tomb
                              4x City of Traitors
                              4x Lion’s Eye Diamond
                              4x Mox Opal
                              4x Lotus Petal

                              The deck I have been working on for the past five years can be found at link text

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                                Marland_Moore @LieNielsen last edited by

                                @lienielsen You can also grab Magma Mine
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                                  Protoaddict @LieNielsen last edited by

                                  @lienielsen said in [NEO] Containment Construct:

                                  On a side note, could LED be unrestricted?

                                  Nope, and this discussion is part of the reason why. Nothing fair or balanced has ever come from someone using LED.

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                                    Botvinik @Protoaddict last edited by

                                    @protoaddict

                                    The card is balanced in belcher.

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                                      Botvinik @Marland_Moore last edited by

                                      @marland_moore

                                      Ballista is always better because of force of negation right?

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                                        Botvinik @LieNielsen last edited by Botvinik

                                        @lienielsen

                                        If you have elixir of immortality instead of cane you can do basically the same loop in order to gain infinite life at the cost of your hand +6 for mana sources -3 intuition 3 times -3 cast and crack elixir, unless I punted the math, and with infinite life and an elixir of immortality you likely deck your opponent successfully especially with the waning popularity of blightsteel and JTMS.

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                                          BlindTherapy @Botvinik last edited by BlindTherapy

                                          @botvinik force of negation can stop the loop at any point, but ballista is probably just a more playable card in general.
                                          other options in that role include pyrite spellbomb, or simply getting altar of the brood once and triggering it off the LED/elixir loop to mill the opponent out.

                                          A grave is the safest place to store ill-gotten treasures.

                                          NYSE 3 winner, vintage champs 2015 top 4, vintage champs mox emerald 2021 top 4.

                                          Unban Shahrazad.

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                                            BlindTherapy @Botvinik last edited by

                                            @botvinik said in [NEO] Containment Construct:

                                            especially with the waning popularity of blightsteel and JTMS.

                                            you will also still lose to brain freeze, or doomsday.

                                            A grave is the safest place to store ill-gotten treasures.

                                            NYSE 3 winner, vintage champs 2015 top 4, vintage champs mox emerald 2021 top 4.

                                            Unban Shahrazad.

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