And here lies another thread, victim of Steve's ego...
- The problem with the "good players" argument is that it discounts those players' skills at deck selection. Rich didn't pick a deck at random and neither did Brian - they chose to play Gush for a reason. If you are going to suggest that these are the best players in the room (and I agree with you on that), then you also should assume they are skilled when it comes to deck selection.
What you say is true, but my point was that I think these players would have done either better or just as well had they played the better performing deck. You played Gush, but your teammates who played Shop Eldrazi got 1st and 9th. Why didn't you? Empirically, Workshop Eldrazi was the better deck choice, right?
Possibly one reason is that you don't have as much confidence in yourself as a Shop pilot as Montolio or Brian - which suggests the limits of your "skill in deck selection" argument.
I piloted Sylvan Mentor to 6-2 record, was tied for the highest game win percentage in the field at 73.68% and left with a Mana Drain for my efforts. I really think my deck selection was fine for the event, thank you very much. If you actually cared about my reasoning for not playing the Ravager list, I was uncertain what percentage of the field would be Oath and Null Rods, which the deck has some difficulty against, but I really suspect you are trying to "win the argument" and don't really care what my reply was.
there was a perception that with Chalice and then Lodestone Golem getting restricted, combo would have a field day and part of that perception was that it had a favorable matchup against Gush. That has not really developed in any metagame.
I think the reason for that is that Thalia/Thorn metagame is just as bad for combo as the Shops metagame - if not worse. A second reason is that combo is just hard to play. Even if combo is the absolute best deck in a Vintage metagame, it's very difficult it for it to every truly dominate, because there aren't enough players who can master it. As Rich says, it "makes his head hurt."
I was referring to the period of time in which Gush was 60% of the metagame and Shops/Eldrazi/Hatebears virtually nonexistent...
As for the deck being difficult to play, how difficult is it to rules lawyer your opponent out of multiple Scab-clan Berserker triggers? Your opponent that round left feeling you were a tremendous douchebag and I had to explain, "that's just Steve being Steve - he's not here to 'win fans', but 'to dominate Vintage tournaments'." Fortunately, you had enough common sense not pull a Mastriano and lie to the judge about what happened and Sam got the win she deserved. Unfortunately, you could have shared a 6 month suspension with him in addition to the NYSE Team trophy his cheating helped you win (and that you alluded to when we were leaving the NYSE..."Nice trophy! I have two of them"...I had almost forgot at that moment what a self-serving narcissist you were. Thank you for reminding me!). Seriously, you are the part of the Vintage community I want nothing to do with..