@fsecco said in White Eldrazi:
A lot of these cards are Legacy cards though. Palace Jailer, Linvala and TNN don't seem like relevant cards in Vintage... Council's Judgment is also lackluster. The only WW card I'd understand playing of these is Prelate.
Actually, @wappla discussed the fact that he used Linvala in at least one instance. Prelate and Jailer have also both come up in this thread.
You may not run into TNN in Vintage, but I lost to it in two games last weekend and had nothing in my deck (a rogue red deck) that could deal with it at all. My best hope would have been to stick a Blood Moon early to turn off his Cavern and then counter his TNN with REB. Not a very strong chance. Admittedly, I was playing a doofus deck just because I'm a doofus, but still, it's not the sort of thing I want to do all the time. (Just when I'm feeling like a doofus.) Last weekend, I went 2-2, losing to Merfolk 2-0, winning 2-0 against Oath, winning 2-1 against Ravager Shops and losing 1-2 against Dredge. I'm not enough of a Spike that I have to play the top deck all the time, but at least some of the time I'd like to be prepared for what I have a high probability of facing and at my LGS, Merfolk is not at all unlikely.
@marcb Thanks, that was what I was thinking of. I had forgotten where I had seen it. Now that you remind me of it, SaffronOlive had a nice description of it and how to apply it at https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/brewer-s-minute-hypergeometric-distribution-in-deck-building.
Anyway, a probability of ~58% isn't bad if we're talking about something like having your wincon on board by turn 4-5, but isn't quite so appetizing (to me) when we're talking about a "save or die" effect. I suppose we actually may get another 2-4 turns against TNN, but against Emrakul, the Aeons Torn whatever we have sided in needs to be effective as soon as, and as reliably as, possible because we're not going to have many chances to cast anything. You can use effects (as opposed to spells) against Emrakul, but I wouldn't mind being able to use the same SB cards against both her and TNN and, e.g., Fairgrounds Warden would work against Emrakul, but not against TNN.
In my inimitable long-winded way, that's why I feel concerned about casting xWW spells with a mana base like this. I suppose that this is just why WEldrazi is not quite a "Tier 1" deck.