So here's what's unrestricted:
Chalice of the Void
Dig Through Time
Gitaxian Probe
Golgari Grave-Troll
Karn, the Great Creator
Library of Alexandria
Lodestone Golem
Lotus Petal
Memory Jar
Mental Misstep
Mind's Desire
Monastery Mentor
Mystic Forge
Narset, Parter of Veils
Strip Mine
Thorn of Amethyst
Time Vault
Treasure Cruise
Yawgmoth's Will

I get 4 Channel, 4 Karn, 4 Time Vault, 4 Memory Jar, 4 Lodestone, 4 Chalice, and 4 Trinisphere. Yeah good luck ever getting a turn if you play me and don't win the flip.

@serracollector said in Casual Vintage Formats:

I get 4 Channel, 4 Karn, 4 Time Vault, 4 Memory Jar, 4 Lodestone, 4 Chalice, and 4 Trinisphere. Yeah good luck ever getting a turn if you play me and don't win the flip.

Force of will is a card in the format still.


8 fow 4 gush 4 brainstorm breach sounds about right.

Or you could play 4 Tinker.dec, Balance.dec... so many options

4 Tinker
4 FoW
4 FoV
4 channel
4 Land Grant
1 Bolas's Citadel
1 Tropical Island
4 trinisphere
4 karn, creator
8 Solomoxcrypt
1 Mana Vault
4 lotus petal
1 Lion's eye
1 Ancestral
4 Charbelcher
4 Serum Powder
4 Veil of Summer

4 FoN
4 Grafdigger's
1 Time Vault
1 Manifold Key
1 Mycosinth Lattice
4 Leyline of Sanctity

I'd try out something like this 🙂

@thewhitedragon69 if you only have 5 other blue cards in the deck why play force of will?

I'm in the freeform lobby on MTGO waiting for someone to join. "U30 testing"

My deck isn't that scary

4 Scalding Tarn
2 Sprite Dragon
2 Underworld Breach
4 Force of Negation
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Force of Will
4 Polluted Delta
4 Volcanic Island
4 Underground Sea
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Gush
4 Brainstorm
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Merchant Scroll
4 Gitaxian Probe
2 Mental Misstep
4 Young Pyromancer
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Ruby
1 Brain Freeze

2 Seal of Fire
2 Yixlid Jailer
4 Pyroblast
2 Nihil Spellbomb
2 Dismember
2 Tormod's Crypt
1 Soul-Guide Lantern
1 Lurrus of the Dream Den


I've actually found Lurrus to not be good enough in this format, but the rest of this deck is pretty solid against 4x Trini/Lodestone shops. I got crushed by Flash, though. I should be streaming on MTGO later today

last edited by Guest

@desolutionist and I just played a set of matches that were lots of fun the 4x Tinker, PO, Vault, Key deck beat xerox but definitely got a bit lucky. And then gush tendrils lost to xerox. Fun was had, this reminds me of vintage in 2014/15. I haven't tried to play against shops yet though. Overall the format is explosive but not like actually that much more insane than some of the versions of the format I actually played in.

Yeah it looks insane on the surface, but once you realize there's 8 Forces, it's not that bad.

We still have to figure out how good Balance.dec and Necro.dec is.

reporting in

Necro.dec isn't good enough.

last edited by Guest

Sorry if this is hijacking, but I had a question about the U30 format.

@grandpabelcher said in Casual Vintage Formats:

Theory behind this is that it's tutors; the best, oldest fast mana; and unconditional, cheap draw-7s. This includes all of the P9, for tradition's sake.

So here's what's unrestricted:

To me this seems strange. Tinker is both a tutor and fast mana, checking 2 of the restriction boxes. Why is it unrestricted?

As a side note, I feel that Imperial Seal would be a better unrestriction. Has that been considered?

last edited by Joep

you might want to think of Tinker as an additional cost tutor / blue artifact engine card. It’s honestly over hyped. You can just Pyroblast it and then they’re down two cards.

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