Large Collection Stolen at GP: New York

@Aaron-Patten said:

@Khahan It's good to know there are companies specializing in insurance for collectibles. I may even start an account with the one you've mentioned. What are your thoughts on using GPS tracking devices as added security for a collection? Would you be able to recommend a brand? I've also been thinking about purchasing a lock box. I think the combination of the two could be effective as an anti-theft device. I've just started doing the research my self but I can't seem to find any tracking devices that specifically use the cell network to transmit their location. It's come as a surprise to me since this seems like the most reliable way to ensure the device will be able to report it's location. If anyone can chime in on this and give me any info on tracking devices and mobile lock boxes that would be effective for storing a collection I'd be really keen to hear anything you have to say.

I've never thought about or looked into a tracking device so I have no clue on that. Closest thing I can think of is the 'find my phone' app if you keep your cell phone in your bag. But that's a bad idea anyway. Keep valuables separated to minimize loss in case of a theft or other event.

As for the gps, I just did a quick yahoo search out of curiosity. It looks like there are personal gps trackers that could work. I found them to have small dimensions (•Dimensions: W: 2”/5.08cm, H: 2.6”/6.51cm, 😧 0.875”/2.22CM), light weight (1.4 ounces) so they would easily fit in a bookbag or a card box. Pricing appears to be anywhere from $50 to $300. And they should all work with a simple app on your cell phone. I'm not going to link any specific site or mention any specific manufacturer because I just don't know enough about them to make an informed decision. But the idea is definitely another good one.

Something like this might work. Not sure if they have a setting that notifies you if you item gets out of your sight, would be cool if they did:

https://chipolo.net/

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The problem with those small Bluetooth based trackers is that they are 100% reliant on user adoption; thus being totally useless in implementation. I'd go as far as to say they provide peace of mind but no real security net.

@Khahan I have to agree 100% on the insurance thing. I also have a personal collection policy in the $35k range in it is literally peanuts compared to the rest of the bill (I have HO and car policies all through the same policy so the collection insurance comes out like a couple dollars a month.)

The other thing about HO is it doesn't cover any property that is outside your home. So, if someone breaks into your home and steals your cards, you can collect, however if you bring your cards to an event and they get stolen, they were outside your home and not covered.

Like you said, what is a couple dollars or even $10 a month when your collection is worth 1000x as much.

Wow, very demoralizing.

Is the guy who lost the cards some kind of a dealer? I figure that the quantities he was carrying (6 AR, 7TW etc) were insane.

@xXHazardXx said:

The other thing about HO is it doesn't cover any property that is outside your home. So, if someone breaks into your home and steals your cards, you can collect, however if you bring your cards to an event and they get stolen, they were outside your home and not covered.

This is 100% not true. I have never seen policy language that did not cover contents that were outside of the house and I've been in the industry handling claims and selling policies since 1998. I've handled claims for people with luggage stolen in Europe and there is definitely coverage. Contents coverage is typically world-wide except for another residence premise.
Best thing to do though is talk to your personal agent. Some states may have oddities I'm not aware of. And if you have an 'in the house only' policy, get that changed.

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@Greg I hope they catch this scumbag who stole those cards, and any accomplices.

It is amazing, though, how he looks exactly like the Gary Oldman villain in The Fifth Element.

@Khahan I can only speak from my personal experience, but this is what my State Farm agent told me. He could have been wrong or misinformed... I concede. However, the end (the having the personal collection policy) is the right choice.

Thanks!

The thing that really just gets me mad is that these folks probably go to events with the sole purpose of stealing. I'm sure they walk around again and again looking for the perfect chance to snag something.

@Islandswamp said:

The thing that really just gets me mad is that these folks probably go to events with the sole purpose of stealing. I'm sure they walk around again and again looking for the perfect chance to snag something.

One tiny bit of comfort is that if someone is doing what you describe it's fairly easy to notice. IFF you're inclined to notice it. It's terrible that attending an event with collections like some posters on these boards have requires constant vigilance and at least a hint of paranoia, but it's still the case.

I hope they catch these guys and get everything back.

@rcwraspy I went to the LGS in my town today. I haven't gone out of the house to play Magic in ages (I had quit for a long time before 2013 and have mostly played MTGO since). My son (age 5) needed me to take him to the bathroom. Without hesitation I walk him to the restroom and wait inside because he's nervous in places he's unfamiliar with. I then realize I've left all of my valuable cards out on a table unattended. Nothing happened, and I didn't think anyone at the shop would mess with my stuff, but I realized that in this day and age letting your guard down like that is a recipe for disaster.

@Islandswamp Yeah man, its crazy. I won't even leave my stuff in the car anymore. Whenever we do post event dinners and such the bags come into the restaurant.

@rikter said:

@Islandswamp Yeah man, its crazy. I won't even leave my stuff in the car anymore. Whenever we do post event dinners and such the bags come into the restaurant.

I've become more cautious with my stuff too. I just don't want to have this exchange with the officer, "Yes sir. The box that was stolen is worth more than the car that it was in. No sir, I'm not joking."

I can't wait to hear that they caught this A-hole. Good that they got it on film. It feels like there's a decent chance they find him.

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