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      Cuikui last edited by Cuikui

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      Mystical Dispute 2U
      Instant
      This spell costs 2 less to cast if it targets a blue spell.
      Counter target spell unless its controller pays 3.

      Source: Andrea Mengucci

      It is less powerful that Red Elemental Blast to fight blue, but it is not completely dead against the rest. It is also mono Blue. It dodges misstep even if it is less important now.

      Can this see some play ? in BUG maybe ?

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      • Zieby
        Zieby last edited by Zieby

        This card is very good in a permission war (to force your bomb through), but as a general counter spell I believe it is worse than Mana Leak due to the clause.

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          A Former User last edited by

          It´s not worse than Mana Leak, it costs half the mana. This fights for Spell Pierce's slots. It's way more limited, but can counter Snapcaster and Leovold. Seems great to fight Narset too, but Pierce already does that. I like this, and it would be much more enticing in a 4 Misstep world.

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            • Protoaddict
              Protoaddict last edited by

              There is a very large logic tree you need to move down to see if this is the card you want.

              • Are you not playing red for Pyroblast
              • Are the cards you want to counter usually blue
              • Are there times where you would see yourself being in the position to pay 3 mana to counter a non blue spell
              • Will your opponent typically not be able to pay the tax
              • Are the spells you want to counter almost always instants (Dispel may be better)
              • Are they a mix of instants and sorceries spread around the colors (Spell pierce may be better)
              • Are multiple spells being put on the stack in a counter war or against storm builds (flusterstorm or mindbreak trap)
              • Are you playing oath and are the predominance of spells you want to counter instant, sorcery, or enchantment (swan song may be better)
              • What portion of the meta game are shops decks, and what portion of the rest of the meta run heavy artifacts (steel sabotage may be better)

              I mean this isn't even the extent of it. Long story short this card has the bonifides to be a player but I fail to see where it fits. It's not a great sideboard card because there are more tailored options in the game for whatever you want to deal with, and as a maindeck card it seems too likely dead to me in the matchups where the 3 mana version would see play (shops, dredge, thalia)

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                Serracollector last edited by

                Painter's servant got 4 more pyro/rebs? 12 one drop counters seems "ok"

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                • garbageaggro
                  garbageaggro TMD Supporter last edited by

                  Is this better than flusterstorm in a counter war?

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                    A Former User @garbageaggro last edited by A Former User

                    @garbageaggro

                    Well it counters the Narset. But in most cases just worse than Pierce.

                    You gotta consider that the best deck is turn one combo belcher so what are we even talking about here.

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                      p3temangus last edited by

                      I'm with @Serracollector on this one. The interaction with painter is way to significant to ignore. It may only see play in 1 deck but may push that deck from relative obscurity to a deck that can steal weekly challenges and league 5-0s.

                      Once Upon a Time is another boon to the Painter Archtype as well serving as painter copies 5-8.

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                        A Former User @p3temangus last edited by

                        @p3temangus I'd agree with you until that last sentence. Once Upon a Time has no place in Painter. It´s not a tutor, so you have a great chance to wiff. Also, paying 1G for the extra copies seems pretty bad.

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                          • garbageaggro
                            garbageaggro TMD Supporter @p3temangus last edited by

                            @p3temangus said in [ELD] Mystical Dispute:

                            The interaction with painter is way to significant to ignore. It may only see play in 1 deck but may push that deck from relative obscurity to a deck that can steal weekly challenges and league 5-0s.

                            This card has to be worse than red blasts 1-8 in painter though right? Do you have room for 9+ of that effect? IN all the old build of painter i played i struggled to play more than 4 and even with MM restricted I can't imagine playing more than 6-7.

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