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    • Protoaddict
      Protoaddict last edited by

      It only targets planewalkers your opponents control so yes, you could play this just to murder a walker or 2 without one of your own, it would fall under the "do as much as you can" rule.

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      • craw_advantage
        craw_advantage @vaughnbros last edited by

        @vaughnbros Yes. "Choose" means you do it if possible on resolution.

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          Thewhitedragon69 @Protoaddict last edited by Thewhitedragon69

          @protoaddict No, it's not your opponent's walkers, it is ANY walkers. You could actually drop some of the 3 mana uncommon PWs, drop something with a substantial ultimate, and Elderspell your lesser walkers for a massive pump on your better walker to ultimate in the same turn (or the turn after if you don't have BB + 4ish mana).

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          • vaughnbros
            vaughnbros @Protoaddict last edited by

            @protoaddict

            Thanks this seems like a card to keep on the radar then.

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            • ssasala
              ssasala last edited by

              If my opponent has 2 planeswalkers on the battlefield... I am losing. And I am probably not resolving this card. Dack and Jace will make it pretty hard to resolve. One of the reasons Abrupt Decay is still good. On the surface this looks awesome but probably won’t see play.

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                Thewhitedragon69 @ssasala last edited by

                @ssasala Except the 2 PWs could be a WAR uncommon, teferi time raveler + dack or jace maybe. If you are running double black, you are likely clearing the path with seize/duress. If your opponent taps out to play that second walker and doesn't have the FoW, you can get a nice 2-for-1.

                I think it'll see fringe SB play and will probably be bigger in Modern, but it can get value in the right situations.

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                • Protoaddict
                  Protoaddict last edited by

                  If you have a single walker on the field against your opponents 2 you may literally turn the game around from a loss to a win with this single card. Being able to remove 2 walkers and put 4 counters on say, liliana of the veil just seems to be game over to me.

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                  • Marland_Moore
                    Marland_Moore last edited by Marland_Moore

                    This card is crucial to Grixis and BUG fighting a Jeskai deck. Other than that it’s not a vintage card

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                    • hardy
                      hardy last edited by

                      Destroy any number of target planeswalkers.

                      Maybe this goes without saying, but 0 is a number. 🙂

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                      • revengeanceful
                        revengeanceful TMD Supporter @hardy last edited by

                        @hardy While you could technically choose 0, the end result would be adding zero loyalty counters, so that seems wasteful.

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                        • BlindTherapy
                          BlindTherapy last edited by

                          i feel like dreadbore is better than this card in decks that also have red, but i guess it's a question of what's more likely: your opponent having a must-kill creature or having multiple walkers?

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                            Thewhitedragon69 last edited by

                            I think Hero's downfall is more likely to be better in most situations, and that card isn't very playable in vintage (love it in modern). Hitting a pyromancer or monk or vengevine or human is useful. Instant speed is also big. The chance this card will be useful to net any loyalty or card advantage without you already being buried beyond help is small. I suppose in the right matchups (xerox), if you are on a PW build that accesses double black easily, you could get a nice boost often enough. So many vintage decks run 0 walkers though, so this will be bad maindeck for sure.

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