@tattoocek I’ve been playing with your deck all day. The thing that’s best about it is that it can reach truly absurd levels of inevitability late game with all the hard counters and control. The thing I don’t like about it is that it feels slower to get started than what I’m used to.
It rarely does much on turn 1. I can see why you’re so high on Decay for that reason. It really shines in your build where you can let threats resolve and then shoot them in the face. It is often the second deck to play a spell in the game. I did some math so see the differences.
I defined a good proactive first turn as any turn where one of the following five things happened. Play a Library of Alexandria, a Standstill, an Oath, Dropping a Jace, or a Chalice set at 1 (Chalice at zero after playing some moxen is about the same thing so I just skipped it) To be fair, I didn’t include plays like Channeling an Emrakul, Tinkering a Sphinx, or Showing one or the other into play.
My deck as is (Rough %s for turn 1)
Library = 11%
Playing Standstill = 12% (39% Standstill + Blue Source 82% + A mox or lotus 37%)
Playing Oath = 11% (Oath 39% + Green Source 76% + A mox or lotus 37%)
Playing Chalice@1 = 3% (Chalice 11% + Any mox or lotus 37% + Another mana source 92%)
Playing Jace = 1% (Jace 11% + Lotus and other mana source 10%)
Your Deck as is (Rough %s for turn 1)
Library = 11%
Playing Standstill = 39% Standstill/ Blue Source 84%/ A mox or Lotus 30% = 10%
Playing Oath = Oath 39%/ Green Source 79%/ A mox or Lotus 30% = 9%
Playing Chalice@1= 0%
Playing Jace = 2%
That made me wonder what the result would be of adding Ruby to my deck for… IDK, just something that wouldn’t change the other %s too much. Lets just say a Sphinx.
My deck with Ruby for a Sphinx
Library = 11%
Playing Standstill = 39% Standstill / Blue Source 82% / A mox or lotus 43% = 17% roughly
Playing Oath = Oath 39% / Green Source 76% / A mox or lotus 43% = 13% roughly
Playing Chalice@1 = Chalice 11% / Any mox or lotus 43% / Another mana source 92% = 4%
Playing Jace = 1%
SO… my take away is, this build should at least be looking at running more artifact mana because it turns on the aggressive lines much more, much earlier. My build with Ruby in should be doing something pretty annoying, approaching 50% of the opening hands, when you include the rarities like Tinkers, Channels, Shows and broken turns off Ancestral. I think that will mitigate a lot of need for board removal, since in many of those games, the initial advantage will just be too big for opponents to overcome?
In total fairness, your build does a lot of other little turn one things. Like dropping a Top, or the requisite Brainstorm or Ponder. I didn’t factor these in either. I probably should have, but its tough because now I'm calculating drawing to other good things, and all those things involve potential Misstep lines... woof
What do you think about this? How did your games in that 16 player tourney go? Slow and grindy? Did you feel like you fell behind and then took stuff off their board a lot? Why not just run more acceleration… is it fear of pitching moxen under the Standstill?... and why the heck not run a Chalice if you only run 4, zero mana artifacts, and 3 one mana spells not named Misstep or Flusterstorm?
(PS. Loved watching you play on the Mana Drain League)