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    • diophan
      diophan last edited by diophan

      376 players showed up in Pittsburgh to play in Vintage's most prestigious event of the year. The tournament ended with the matchup most emblematic of the past few months: Paradoxical Outcome versus Ravager Shops. Congratulations to Brian Coval for becoming our new North American Vintage Champion!

      Top 8:

      1. Brian Coval - Esper Paradoxical
      2. Nam Tran - Ravager Shops
      3. Kyle Dorgan - Esper Paradoxical
      4. Rich Shay - Ravager Shops
      5. Matt Sperling - RUG Pyromancer
      6. Eliot Burk - UW Landstill
      7. Marshall Arthur - Bant Survival
      8. Cosmo Kwok - Grixis Thieves

      Eternal Central's Writeup, including Decklists

      Although I have my complaints about the current state of vintage, that's quite the diverse top 8 after last year's!

      Even though it didn't win the event, the story of the tournament for me was Survival solidifying itself as a real force. There are at least 3 builds (Bant, Bant+R, and BUG) all with their advantages. The winrate here likely overstates its power slightly: a small group of dedicated pilots came with it, and due to the price of the deck I imagine many skimped on hate and practice against such a small expected share of the metagame.

      Classification notes: "Other" was mostly monored, but there weren't quite enough to warrant breaking it out as a separate archetype. If you have any objections to how we classified your deck, or spot an error, send us a PM.

      Thanks as always to @ChubbyRain for his considerable help, and to @Jaco for scanning the decklists so soon after his Old School tournament concluded!

      Spreadsheet Link

      Last year's tournament report

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        A Former User last edited by

        Major victory for the folks in the survival thread and further proof that Magic Online has a huge role in driving the format forward. The deck and Bazaar have been 50% of my matches recently in Vintage leagues.

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          Smmenen TMD Supporter last edited by Smmenen

          Incredible work!

          This is really amazing stuff. The match sample sizes are enormous in many cases, giving far more credibility than we could ever get from MTGO challenges alone.

          Kevin and I didn't do a podcast preview show this year, but we did spend an evening documenting our predictions for the event (which was recorded in a google document). I don't want to reveal Kevin's, but my final prediction was:
          18% Shop
          12% Xerox
          15% Outcome
          7% BUG(r)
          10% Dredge
          9% Eldrazi
          9% Oath
          3% Big Blue
          3% Dark Ritual Combo
          3% Survival
          4% Blue Control
          7% Other
          = 100%

          I'm in striking distance every year, but this may have been my best estimation ever.

          Re: the metagame. Not only do none of the major decks have dominant metagame presences, but none have dominant win percentages either. This is a very balanced Vintage metagame. I am enjoying it greatly.

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            neo_altoid @Guest last edited by

            @chubbyrain

            I would not have gotten to x-2 without the work of @kaluma , @wfain and @GutoCmtt Props to them for breaking the format as much as it has ever been broken.

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            • Stuart
              Stuart last edited by

              Amazing work! Thank you guys so much for doing this.

              Annoying question: do you have a sense of the Jacodrazi vs Powered split in the “Eldrazi” category? Jacodrazi seems like a deck that was there because it’s affordable, while you’d have to make a specific meta call to play Powered Eldrazi.

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              • spook
                spook last edited by spook

                Great analysis. In the last chart, where does Survival fall? Taxing?

                What abysmal win rates for Dredge and Oath (and budget). Oath was a mixed bag of win rates by matchup, but Dredge just lost to every other deck except Big Blue.

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                • volrathxp
                  volrathxp last edited by

                  This is great stuff. Thanks guys 🙂

                  Joe Dyer
                  Vintage 101

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                  • JACO
                    JACO last edited by

                    Great work as usual, gentlemen. I am really enjoying this metagame currently, and had a blast at Vintage Champs this year. So as to not create another distinct thread with Vintage Champs 2018 results, here is the full Eternal Central report with ALL DECKLISTS and so forth (mods can break this off in to its own thread if necessary for some reason).

                    North America Vintage Champs 2018 Coverage, Decklists, and Results
                    http://www.eternalcentral.com/vintagechamps2018/

                    Find me on Twitter @JMJACO and @EternalCentral. If you have an interest in Vintage Eldrazi, check out my book Eldrazi Meditations.

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                      Griselbrother last edited by

                      Great work. However, the decklist file is the one from last year.

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                      • volrathxp
                        volrathxp @Griselbrother last edited by

                        @griselbrother RIP @JACO

                        Joe Dyer
                        Vintage 101

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                        • JACO
                          JACO @Griselbrother last edited by

                          @griselbrother said in North American Eternal Weekend 2018 Metagame Breakdown:

                          Great work. However, the decklist file is the one from last year.

                          It looks like the embed was using the correct link, but the download was last year's file. It's been updated and corrected. Thanks for the heads up. Enjoy.

                          Find me on Twitter @JMJACO and @EternalCentral. If you have an interest in Vintage Eldrazi, check out my book Eldrazi Meditations.

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                          • Stuart
                            Stuart @Stuart last edited by

                            @stuart said in North American Eternal Weekend 2018 Metagame Breakdown:

                            Amazing work! Thank you guys so much for doing this.

                            Annoying question: do you have a sense of the Jacodrazi vs Powered split in the “Eldrazi” category? Jacodrazi seems like a deck that was there because it’s affordable, while you’d have to make a specific meta call to play Powered Eldrazi.

                            Update: Eternal Central is a wonderful resource. For those curious, they show 23 Eldrazi decks (as opposed to the 22 listed above). They break down into:

                            • Unpowered Jacodrazi: 12
                            • Unpowered White: 5
                            • Powered White: 5
                            • Powered Colorless: 1

                            I'm not a stats guy and don't wanna falsely report match win percentages, but my impression is that there were some high-performing unpowered decks, but lots of poor performances (which shouldn't be surprising, if there were lots of pilots who never play Vintage and threw the deck together for the hell of it). Powered White seemed solid, would love to know the overall win percentages.

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                            • PeAcH
                              PeAcH TMD Supporter @diophan last edited by

                              @diophan

                              Thanks for this amazing work. We should be really greateful people like you and all those who have helped with this titanic task take so much personal time to make sure the information is shared for all players’ benefit.

                              Btw which is the difference between Big Blue and Blue control decks?

                              @peachmtg

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                                davidlemon @PeAcH last edited by

                                @peach

                                I assume Big Blue is stuff like Grixis Thieves while Blue Control is stuff like Landstill.

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                                    A Former User @davidlemon last edited by

                                    @davidlemon Correct

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                                    • diophan
                                      diophan @Stuart last edited by diophan

                                      @stuart Other than the single powered colorless list, including the Eldrazi tag and excluding budget does the trick in the "Tag Breakdown" tab. I get a 50.88% winrate.

                                      @spook The tags are not necessarily subsets of a particularly archetype. Almost all of the Survival lists have taxing elements (most notably Thalia), but I don't believe Vasu's BUG list had any.

                                      If you'd like to get to the bottom of where the classification differences in the Eldrazi decks are, let us know (I need a break from staring at decklists).

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                                      • spook
                                        spook last edited by spook

                                        Cleaning up the data and moving people to the right subcategory:
                                        Bant Survival = 65% win rate (8 players)
                                        RGwu/4c Survival = 55% win rate (6 players with 1 or more Ancient Grudge and Chewer)
                                        Other Survival = 75% win rate (1 player: FOW Leovold / Misstep)

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                                        • nedleeds
                                          nedleeds last edited by nedleeds

                                          @diophan insane breakdown! A correction on my entry

                                          O'brien, Sean Fish BUG Fish BUG Leo with Bobs FOW, Rod

                                          I didn't play Force of Will. Also my entry is the only one listed as Rod and not 'Null Rod' which may be messing up some tag counts. I didn't play Rod of Ruin as sick is is vs. the field.

                                          I also noticed Leovold was a tag, I played 2 x Emmisary's of Trest.

                                          Thanks again for putting this together, it's the single best view of a paper sanctioned meta we get each year so for those of us who don't play online it's a massive help.

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                                          Sometimes caster on Tusk Talk

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