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    • thecravenone
      thecravenone last edited by

      Link: http://www.eternalcentral.com/introducing-middle-school/

      tl;dr: New format with:

      • 4th edition to Scourge (AKA Ice Age up until original border died)
      • Mana Burn
      • Damage on the stack
      • Wishes can get exiled cards
      • This banned list

      Quote from: Stormanimagus on March 16, 2016, 06:39:41 pm
      >Instead of tearing things down we should calmly explain our opinions.

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        Tittliewinks22 @thecravenone last edited by

        @thecravenone hoping for a MM-Scourage format to pick up sometime

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        • SamuelA
          SamuelA TMD Supporter last edited by SamuelA

          This is very interesting when compared to Premodern that has been getting a small buzz. (http://premodernmagic.com/) Comparing the two formats Middle School has a very different approach to the banned list than Premodern took and I absolutely love that they allow the World Champion gold-bordered cards. When a format is pretty much going to be unsanctioned for a while, there is no reason to barrier things that are still playing with a Wizard's product.

          Here is how the two ban lists differ and it makes it such a vastly different format even though the two of them have for the most part the same set legalities. Comparing the banned lists and omitting the cards they have in common we have a very interesting difference in the formats:

          -Middle School-

          Dark Ritual
          Lion’s Eye Diamond
          Mana Crypt
          Tinker
          Yawgmoth’s Bargain

          -Premodern-

          Black Vise
          Earthcraft
          Entomb
          Force of Will
          Frantic Search
          Grim Monolith
          Land Tax
          Mystical Tutor
          Necropotence
          Show and Tell
          Tendrils of Agony
          Time Spiral
          Worldgorger Dragon

          Middle School attacked fast mana (while strangely leaving Grim Monolith unbanned) while Premodern looks to nip any combo nonsense in the bud since they don't allow Force of Will while still letting you use Dark Ritual and Lion's Eye Diamond. Storm is tougher as well since Premodern players have only Brain Freeze and Hunting Pack to kill with. Necropotence being legal is interesting but with no Dark Ritual to power it out, it seems like it would be more of a controlling card rather than something you slam down on turn 1 to win on turn three after drawing 8 for two turns in a row.

          All in all this is definitely something I'll be interested in seeing where it goes and how different it is going to be from the semi-established Premodern. Force of Will changes a ton of things so who knows!

          http://www.eternalcentral.com/author/samuelalaimo/

          (Previously Space_Stormy)

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          • Monkey_Island
            Monkey_Island last edited by

            It is worth mentionning also that Portal sets are allowed which on top of my head allows:

            Imperial Recruiter for Aluren
            Personal Tutor for ?

            Very interesting format anyway. i think they complete each other with Premodern.

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              A Former User last edited by

              This format sounds great! I'm very much a gameplay > aesthetics kind of guy, and this format certainly hits the sweet spot when it comes to format size. With all printings being legal it's much more inclusive as well, and feels much more like a celebration of Magic's past rather than Old School's snooty luxury persona. I'll be brewing this format for sure, and I hope it takes off!

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              • garbageaggro
                garbageaggro TMD Supporter last edited by

                I am happy to talk about decks and also why we made the choices we did on the ban list (I was involved in a lot of the testing of the format). It is a pretty great format that hits those of us with nostalgia that starts just a little later than old school. Definitely some of the most ridiculous magic i have played in the last couple years has been middle school.

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                • cutlex
                  cutlex TMD Supporter last edited by

                  Really looking forward to putting together my old Rock and slivers decks. Gonna be a bit painful without dual lands but I'm sure the mana is there!

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                  • mediumsteve
                    mediumsteve last edited by

                    I was also involved in testing Middle School. It's a blast, and I am blown away by the amount of variety in the format.

                    The Vintage format lives on broken cards, and I see no reason why there shouldn't be broken cards that benefit my particular deck of choice to an inordinate degree. I mean, that's only fair.

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                    • mediumsteve
                      mediumsteve @Monkey_Island last edited by

                      @monkey_island said in Eternal Central: Introducing Middle School:

                      It is worth mentionning also that Portal sets are allowed which on top of my head allows:

                      Imperial Recruiter for Aluren
                      Personal Tutor for ?

                      Very interesting format anyway. i think they complete each other with Premodern.

                      Yep. Stompy gets Jungle Lions, and black gets Hymn to Tourach (Anthologies!). I'm curious to see if there is some sort of turbo-fog deck with Time Warps (Time Warp, Temporal Manipulation, Capture of Jingzhou).

                      The Vintage format lives on broken cards, and I see no reason why there shouldn't be broken cards that benefit my particular deck of choice to an inordinate degree. I mean, that's only fair.

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                        neo_altoid last edited by

                        @monkey_island

                        Oh man, the kill with Aluren+Recuiter is so Janky.

                        Recruiter gets Man'o'War, bouncing Recruiter, which then gets Cavern Harpy, which then gets Spike Feeder (or any lifegain dude, really).

                        I want to play this disaster so badly.

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                          whienot last edited by

                          Have a few HyperExtended decks that improve in the switchover, given that most tutors are restricted there.

                          Gonna get Weird with it.

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                          Exploring a 4 Necro world excites me. I like that Black Vise is there to balance it somewhat.

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                            Tittliewinks22 last edited by

                            Wonder is psychatog is strong enough.

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                            • BlindTherapy
                              BlindTherapy @neo_altoid last edited by

                              @neo_altoid you have infinite life. what then?

                              A grave is the safest place to store ill-gotten treasures.

                              NYSE 3 winner, vintage champs 2015 top 4, vintage champs mox emerald 2021 top 4.

                              Unban Shahrazad.

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                              • Stuart
                                Stuart @BlindTherapy last edited by

                                @blindtherapy
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                                Duh.

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                                • Monkey_Island
                                  Monkey_Island @neo_altoid last edited by

                                  @neo_altoid
                                  Incoming Ghitu Slinger buyout !

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                                  • Hrishi
                                    Hrishi last edited by Hrishi

                                    I kinda wish Mind's Desire wasn't banned (since it WAS legal in extended as a 4-of) and there's no format you can play it in as a 4-of. I might be biased but it's probably one of the funnest cards you can play, and I wonder how busted it really is. Maybe you wouldn't mind the question @garbageaggro ?

                                    That being said a 4x Necropotence format is definitely intriguing as hell for me.

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                                      Megustalabanana @mediumsteve last edited by

                                      @mediumsteve when i googled jungle lions i found this
                                      Jungle lions cant 'intercept'
                                      Love that. 😃 ..... intercept!

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                                        covetousrat last edited by covetousrat

                                        Nostalgia reading those articles. Oh yes definitely loving those old extended than vintage now.

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                                        • garbageaggro
                                          garbageaggro TMD Supporter @neo_altoid last edited by

                                          @neo_altoid You can do that one, or ghitu fireslinger, or maggot carrier with one of the life gain when a dude enters cards. The green dude that draws a card when you play a beast is pretty important i think.

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                                          • garbageaggro
                                            garbageaggro TMD Supporter @Hrishi last edited by

                                            @hrishi We have talked about desire a couple times. We just removed a couple other cards before formalizing the format, and wanted to make sure those were cool first (gush and monolith) both seem ok, but we wanted a little time before we let mind's desire free since both those cards could help it.

                                            I think there is a chance it gets unbanned, but we need to figure out how fast it is relative to the rest of the format.

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