@vaughnbros If Sun Titan could have been played why wasn't it? In terms of 20+ flex slots, 4 Therapy, 4 bridge, 8-10 dredge creatures, 4 powder, 12-14 lands (assuming this is enough to help reliably cast hulk), 2 dread return, 4 narco, 10-12 graveyard creatures, some combination of ghasts, ichorid and/or amalgam, 1-2 dread return targets other than hulk, even conservatively that leaves maybe 12-14 flex slots so my original post was off. Can you show me a list that has 20+ maindeck flex slots though? And yes with 12-14 slots you can find room, but is it better than what you are already doing with those slots, like unmask, leyline or pitch counters? If we look at the top decks, shops, xerox, outcome and dredge, what matchup do we want hulk in? When I think about that question it leads me to ask another question, does hulk make non fatestitcher versions faster? If the answer is yes then that helps against outcome and the mirror in game 1. I think in fatestitcher dredge this makes a lot of sense as a maindeck and it could easily replace force of will in other versions, as you can play 4 trap and 4 misstep along with with 4 of this guy, but can we play enough lands to make that work? What is the right land count? I also think hulk makes us lean towards playing more anti hate evoke creatures in the sb.