Navigation

    The Mana Drain

    • Register
    • Login
    • Search
    • Strategy
    • Community
    • Tournaments
    • Recent

    Interesting Decknames and Card-nicknames

    Vintage Community
    nicknames names trivia history
    11
    16
    7959
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Aelien
      Aelien last edited by Aelien

      Lets hear about the stories behind interesting, obscure and funny names for Decks and nicknames of cards.

      Names featured here should not be incredibly obvious like "The Deck is called Grixis Pyromancer because it has Young Pyromancer in it and plays Grixis colors" or "This Deck is called Dredge, because it uses the Dredge mechanic".
      The Decks do not all have to be Vintage Decks, however the Names should have been widely used in the relevant Format or MTG as a whole to the point that people at the time could genereally understand what Deck or Card was talked about when the Name was used. Stuff should not be incredibly obvies, but you can definetly talk about generally well-knows like "Bob" or "Tim" as long as the trivia is interesting.
      For example: Why is this weird Doomsday-Reanimator-Storm Hybrid Legacy Deck called "Tin-fins"? Whats up with all the famous breakfast themed Decknames?

      I would love to have an example Decklist be included or a Picture of the card talked about as well as some context in the posts, so everybody can get the references. I hope we get some cool Trivia out of it and a thread to consult everytime a newer player asks what the hell kind of weird (Deck-) name you are talking about.

      So lets start with some classics:

      Nevinyrral's Disk

      alt text

      Context: The iconic and powerful catch-all, board clear saw a ton of play in early magic and is still a staple in Old School and EDH due to its ability to provide such an effect to colors that generally have problems dealing with specific permanents or lack the ability to whipe a board.

      The Name: The name is one of the most tounge twister like mtg card names out there and in many playgroups people tend to pronounce it kind of like they want. To ease the problem you might hear some players refer to the card just as "Larry's Disk". Thats easy to remember and the sound kind of fits, but there is more behind that common nickname than just the ability to unknot ones tongue.
      In the mtg Lore the Disk is named after Nevinyrral, a powerful Lich on Dominaria and mentor to generations of Necromancers after his demise though his work "The Necromancer's Handbook". Nevinyrral used the Disk in question to blow himself and Urborg up.
      Nevinyrral himself was named by WotC (Probably Garfield himself) after Larry Niven (just written backwards). The US- Author not only coined the Term "Mana" in the context of a magical resource supplied by lands, but also had a Warlock character in his books that build a mana-draining disc, which was the direct inspiration for the card. This makes "Larry's Disk" not only a much needed shortcut for the staggering card name, but also an interesting reference to inspiration from the earliest days of the game.
      TLDR: "Larrys Disc" is named after Larry Niven.

      # The Four Horseman 
      ## Finn
      
      These are the combo.
      1 Dread Return
      1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
      1 Sharuum the Hegemon
      1 Blasting Station
      
      These are what you want to resolve.
      4 Basalt Monolith
      4 Mesmeric Orb
      
      These will keep you alive while you search.
      4 Narcomoeba
      4 Cabal Therapy
      3 Thoughtseize
      4 Force of Will
      4 Gitaxian Probe
      
      These will help you find the combo.
      4 Brainstorm
      4 Ponder
      4 Lim-Dul's Vault
      
      These make your mana.
      3 Underground Sea
      3 Island
      1 Swamp
      4 Polluted Delta
      3 Flooded Strand
      3 Scalding Tarn
      
      Sideboard
      1 Crippling Fatigue
      3 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
      4 Show and Tell
      3 Echoing Truth
      2 Ravenous Trap
      2 Spell Pierce
      

      Context: The Four Horsemen is a Legacy Deck that people mostly know because it had some controversy around itself regarding slow play and shortcuts in tournament play. The Deck works by bringing Basalt Monolith and Mesmeric Orb together into play. This allows you to mill yourself indefinetly just by tapping and untapping the Monolith. While milling yourself you might just find your Emrakul and shuffle your GY back into your Deck using its trigger. You basically repeat milling yourself and shuffling your library back into your Deck until your find a very specific combination of cards making up your gamestate before the Emrakul crashes the party again: Have 3 Narcomoebas in play and Blasting Station, Sharuum as well as a Dread Return in your Graveyard. Now just cast Dread Return targeting the Sharuum, which in turn will bring the Blasting station into play. As soon as it is in play, keep going with the selfmill and have the Narcomoebas fill the two jobs of beeing a sac target and an untap trigger for the blasting station, shuffling them back into your library ad infinitum allowing you to deal an infinite amount of damage to your opponent. Not convoluted at all.
      The problem the deck has is that the very specific combination of hitting 3 Narcomoebas, Sharuum, Blasting Station and Dread Return before Emrakul is not determanistic which makes the pilot unable to specifically name a number of times they want to repeat the demonstated self-milling loop.
      In September 2012 at the SCG Legacy Open LA, the head judge was brought over to make a call on a feature match involving Jeff Liu on the infamous Deck. The judge, Josh Stansfield, had this to say about the game: "By performing the same loop of actions without changing the game, he was violating the shortcut policy outlined in the Magic Tournament Rules and the Slow Play policy in the Infraction Procedure Guide." (http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/deck_tech_four_horsemen_with_j.html)

      The Name: This name is one of the most confusing and many theories about what cards it specifically references can be found online, mostly because the Deck changed quite a lot from its original form. I heard people say the 4 Horsemen where the Narcomoebas, others say its the 4 pieces needed to find once the infinite mill is established, this comes the closest to the original meaning of the name. I found the earliest mention of this deck in a mtgsalvation thread called "[deck] The Four Horsemen" , where a US User called Finn postet a List and explanation for his Deck idea originally in March of 2011. (https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/legacy-type-1-5/developing-legacy/181684-deck-the-four-horsemen) The Thread now has over 13 Pages of posts reaching into 2017 with updates and a loyal playerbase constantly tinkering on the Deck. In his post Finn gave a clue about the Deckname in the following sentece explaining the decks win condition " If you milled 3 Narcos, a "Horseman" and a Dread Return before he does, great - Dread Return a fatties." Alone this sentence doesnt seem to make a lot of sense when you look at the post, where nowhere else (but the Title) Horsemen are mentioned, and reanimating fatties doesnt really seem to be the goal of the Deck. The Answer comes in reading the thread further and discovering that the original post was last edited in November 2011, and with it the Decklist changed. In the replies to the thread posted before the edits to the orignal post where made, you can find peoples own suggestions to alter the original decklist, which included exactly 4 fatties as reanimation targets for the Dread returns ushering in the end of the game if found. The Deck has gone through a lot of interations of reanimation targets called "Horsemen" of choice for specific metagame answers, safer comboing, resilience and speed after finally settling on cutting the fattie win condition as a whole and replacing them with the win condition described above. The name stuck, and now we have this wonderfully infamous combo Deck with a very confusing Name.
      TLDR: 4 Horsemen refers to 4 specific reanimation targets in a proto version of the Deck.

      Edit: fixed typos and grammar mistakes, added TLDRs

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
      • T
        Thewhitedragon69 last edited by

        I liked my two decks from the early 2000s. The Man Show (all about the juggies!) and The Riddler (illusionary mask - goblin welder and phyrexian dreadnaut both cost 1 and entered face down....which did I just play?)

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
        • ?
          A Former User last edited by A Former User

          This post is deleted!
          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • 13NoVa
            13NoVa last edited by

            I liked the Bazaar Control deck from like, 2003, 2004, or 2005 (Can't remember) that was called "Your Mom". the deck's engine was Bazaar and Deep Analysis, because of course....

            Your Mom LOVES deep anal

            Brass Man (to me): "Yeah, you're very specific about the things you're really mean about."

            twitch.tv/MSolymossy

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
            • thecravenone
              thecravenone last edited by

              A friend had a deck long ago that he called "Bobs over Baghdad" that played Dark Confidants and Bazaar of Baghdad. I may have a very outdated list hanging around my computer somewhere.

              Someone on Twitter posted a deck called "Snowflakes" - Snow lands casting humans that get triggered.

              Quote from: Stormanimagus on March 16, 2016, 06:39:41 pm
              >Instead of tearing things down we should calmly explain our opinions.

              revengeanceful 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
              • revengeanceful
                revengeanceful TMD Supporter @thecravenone last edited by

                This post is deleted!
                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • revengeanceful
                  revengeanceful TMD Supporter @thecravenone last edited by

                  @thecravenone said in Interesting Decknames and Card-nicknames:

                  A friend had a deck long ago that he called "Bobs over Baghdad" that played Dark Confidants and Bazaar of Baghdad. I may have a very outdated list hanging around my computer somewhere.

                  That reminds me of an old Vintage deck from like 2003/2004 called "Bombs over Baghdad", which was basically a Bazaar/Madness deck with Draw 7s.

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                  • garbageaggro
                    garbageaggro TMD Supporter last edited by

                    Card nicknames:

                    • Bobby Digital aka Dark Confidant
                    • Young Peezy aka Young Pyromancer
                    • Griseldad aka Griselbees aka Griselknees aka Griselbrand
                    • Snap aka Snappy aka Snapcaster Mage
                    • JVP aka Jace, Vryn's Prodigy

                    Deck nicknames:

                    • The breakfast thing is awesome and in my opinion culminated with the survival/volrath's shapeshifter deck: Full English Breakfast
                    • Team America (Bug based midrange deck) was first conceived as an inside joke amongst European players who used generally 'good cards' Americans didn't
                    • The Rock (and his millions) originally named after the wrestler and represented by phyrexian plaguelord and deranged hermit + squirrels (his millions)
                    • Solidarity (reset high tide) Gearhart witnessed one of his friends (Matt Elgin - Spatulaoftheages) playing in a draft with White Weenie. With multiple 1 - toughness creatures in play it seemed like he was about to be wrecked by a Nausea but he had prepared for it by boarding a copy of Solidarity. They had a good laugh about it and the deck got the name of Solidarity.
                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • DanL15243
                      DanL15243 last edited by

                      I know it's not Vintage, but I still can't figure out why they call this Legacy deck here "Nic Fit". Was the creator a chain smoker?? Can't figure it out. Even more mind boggling is "Tin Fins". Why not just call it Dark Depths Reanimator or something to that effect??

                      https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/instant-deck-tech-nic-fit-legacy

                      https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/deck-of-the-day-tin-fins-depths-legacy/

                      John Cox volrathxp thecravenone 3 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • thecravenone
                        thecravenone last edited by

                        TinFins 3: Return of the Onion Burst [Deck thread] [Source of the name]

                        And its variant

                        Bizzaro Stormy [Deck thread] [Source of the name]

                        A few years ago, Star City started simplifying the deck names they used. So Canadian Threshold became RUG Delver. Ironically, in Standard, they had a deck called Solar Flare. Solar Flare was a black white deck named after an old deck by the same name. The old deck was called Solar Flare because it contained Angel of Despair, which looks like Krililn from DBZ, whose signature move is Solar Flare.

                        Some Legacy decks:

                        • Nic Fit - GBx abusing [[Veteran Explorer]] + [[Cabal Therapy]] - Named because those cards are a "Nice Fit"
                        • Spanish Inquisition - Bx Storm - Because no one expects it!
                        • Deadguy Ale - Essentially BW Death & Taxes - I can't find proof but I'm pretty sure this one is named after Rogue's beer by the same name.
                        • Solitare - [[Argothian Enchantress]] combo - Named because you're basically just playing by yourself.
                        • Oozing - Get [[Necrotic Ooze]] into play, dump value creatures into the yard, usually including [[Griselbrand]]. Instant-speed kill with [[Phyrexian Devourer]] and [[Walking Ballista]] in the yard - The name obviously comes from Necrotic Ooze but I wanted to point this one out because the combo is so cool.
                        • Eva Green - Suicide Black with a spalsh of green - Named because Eva Green is hot.
                        • Sylvan Plug - Green stompy - Named after this statue
                        • Quinn The Eskimo - Scrying Sheets control - Named for a Bob Dylan song

                        Quote from: Stormanimagus on March 16, 2016, 06:39:41 pm
                        >Instead of tearing things down we should calmly explain our opinions.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                        • Aelien
                          Aelien last edited by

                          Can someone explain why "Keeper" has this name?

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • S
                            Smmenen TMD Supporter last edited by

                            Mike Long called his version of The Deck "Keeper" on the Magic Invitational, and thus the name stuck. There is a longer story behind it, which you can google or just read my HoV chapters 🙂

                            SCG archive
                            EC
                            History of Vintage
                            Twitter

                            Aelien 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                            • John Cox
                              John Cox @DanL15243 last edited by

                              @danl15243 said in Interesting Decknames and Card-nicknames:

                              I know it's not Vintage, but I still can't figure out why they call this Legacy deck here "Nic Fit". Was the creator a chain smoker?? Can't figure it out. Even more mind boggling is "Tin Fins". Why not just call it Dark Depths Reanimator or something to that effect??

                              https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/instant-deck-tech-nic-fit-legacy

                              https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/deck-of-the-day-tin-fins-depths-legacy/

                              "Tin Fins" is named after a Sea-Lab episode that advertises an onion burst entree at a place called "Grisselbees" ([[Griselbrand]]). This takes place in an episode about reanimating the characters as sharks that later go on a rampage.

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                              • volrathxp
                                volrathxp @DanL15243 last edited by

                                @danl15243

                                Nic Fit actually came about because the original guy who created the deck (Tao) was listening to the song by Sonic Youth of the same name ("Nic Fit") when he was creating the decklist and thought it sounded cool.

                                Joe Dyer
                                Vintage 101

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                • thecravenone
                                  thecravenone @DanL15243 last edited by

                                  @danl15243 said in Interesting Decknames and Card-nicknames:

                                  Even more mind boggling is "Tin Fins". Why not just call it Dark Depths Reanimator or something to that effect??

                                  I can't believe I didn't comment on this one earlier. When Tin Fins plays Dark Depths, it's called Ice Station Zebra

                                  Quote from: Stormanimagus on March 16, 2016, 06:39:41 pm
                                  >Instead of tearing things down we should calmly explain our opinions.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • Aelien
                                    Aelien @Smmenen last edited by

                                    @smmenen a come on, you tease. Make this the thread Google will lead to when people look for an explanation.

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • First post
                                      Last post