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      Zylvorak @Zylvorak last edited by

      @zylvorak also...Is the loam engine that important? It looks like it is... If so how do you get your loam engine going with only 1 copy?

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        Zylvorak @Zylvorak last edited by

        @zylvorak sorry for the spam... Kinda new to post. But is the reply or quote buttons the only way to post? What if I just want to give an update?What do I click to open the window where to type the text with no reply quotes etc? Just a normal plain message? One more post to add to the bottom of this topic? Sorry for the bad English too, but I do my best!

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          YakuzaXRock last edited by

          You use intuition to search for 1 loam, 1 strip mine and then a squee or punishing fire etc.

          Yeah deck takes some practice to know how to play since there are a lot of options all the time. To the opponent it doesnt look like youre doing much but at your side you draw a ton of cards and keeping things in control until you win.

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            YakuzaXRock last edited by YakuzaXRock

            If theres a lot of aggro, you can +1 Balance - 1 red elemental blast.

            Which i think is alright especially in paper.

            Balance is ok vs dredge, you dont lose anything vs bug/survival decks maybe a few random goblin and white weenie but the oath/paradox/mentor matchup gets a little less but oath should still be strong with 2 krosan grip. Paradox is usually a fair matchup anyway.

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              YakuzaXRock last edited by YakuzaXRock

              Actually finally decided on this, cut a land again to bring in mana crypt (again!)

              This makes gush and loam weaker, but with jace you can use those grips better and Balance/1 mana crypt spell for mentor+intuition better as well. Also dack can use stolen moxes better without stony silence.

              // 60 Maindeck
              // 8 Artifact
              1 Black Lotus
              1 Mox Sapphire
              1 Mox Jet
              1 Mox Emerald
              1 Mox Pearl
              1 Mox Ruby
              1 Sol Ring
              1 Mana Crypt

              // 8 Creature
              4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
              1 Monastery Mentor
              2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
              1 Blightsteel Colossus

              // 15 Instant
              4 Force of Will
              1 Ancestral Recall
              1 Dig Through Time
              3 Intuition
              1 Brainstorm
              4 Mental Misstep
              1 Punishing Fire
              1 Ancient Grudge

              // 19 Land
              4 Bazaar of Baghdad
              3 Volcanic Island
              1 Polluted Delta
              1 Scalding Tarn
              1 Flooded Strand
              4 Grove of the Burnwillows
              1 Tundra
              1 Tropical Island
              1 Strip Mine
              1 Underground Sea

              // 4 Planeswalker
              4 Dack Fayden

              // 6 Sorcery
              1 Time Walk
              1 Gitaxian Probe
              1 Treasure Cruise
              1 Tinker
              1 Life from the Loam
              1 Demonic Tutor

              // 15 Sideboard
              // 14 Instant
              SB: 1 Ancient Grudge
              SB: 4 Pyroblast
              SB: 3 Red Elemental Blast
              SB: 1 Ravenous Trap
              SB: 2 Rakdos Charm
              SB: 1 Gush
              SB: 3 Krosan Grip

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                YakuzaXRock last edited by

                Final!!!

                // 60 Maindeck
                // 8 Artifact
                1 Black Lotus
                1 Mox Sapphire
                1 Mox Jet
                1 Mox Emerald
                1 Mox Pearl
                1 Mox Ruby
                1 Sol Ring
                1 Mana Crypt

                // 8 Creature
                4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
                1 Monastery Mentor
                2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
                1 Blightsteel Colossus

                // 16 Instant
                4 Force of Will
                1 Ancestral Recall
                1 Dig Through Time
                3 Intuition
                4 Mental Misstep
                1 Punishing Fire
                1 Ancient Grudge
                1 Brainstorm

                // 18 Land
                4 Bazaar of Baghdad
                4 Volcanic Island
                1 Scalding Tarn
                1 Flooded Strand
                4 Grove of the Burnwillows
                1 Tundra
                1 Tropical Island
                1 Strip Mine
                1 Underground Sea

                // 4 Planeswalker
                4 Dack Fayden

                // 6 Sorcery
                1 Time Walk
                1 Gitaxian Probe
                1 Treasure Cruise
                1 Tinker
                1 Life from the Loam
                1 Demonic Tutor

                // 15 Sideboard
                // 14 Instant
                SB: 4 Pyroblast
                SB: 2 Red Elemental Blast
                SB: 1 Rakdos Charm
                SB: 3 Krosan Grip
                SB: 2 Ancient Grudge
                SB: 1 Ravenous Trap
                SB: 1 Gush

                // 1 Sorcery
                SB: 1 Balance/swords to plowshares

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                  YakuzaXRock @YakuzaXRock last edited by

                  @yakuzaxrock

                  // 60 Maindeck
                  // 8 Artifact
                  1 Black Lotus
                  1 Mox Sapphire
                  1 Mox Jet
                  1 Mox Emerald
                  1 Mox Pearl
                  1 Mox Ruby
                  1 Sol Ring
                  1 Mana Crypt

                  // 8 Creature
                  4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
                  1 Monastery Mentor
                  2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
                  1 Blightsteel Colossus

                  // 16 Instant
                  4 Force of Will
                  1 Ancestral Recall
                  1 Dig Through Time
                  3 Intuition
                  4 Mental Misstep
                  1 Punishing Fire
                  1 Gush
                  1 Ancient Grudge

                  // 18 Land
                  4 Bazaar of Baghdad
                  4 Volcanic Island
                  1 Flooded Strand
                  4 Grove of the Burnwillows
                  1 Tundra
                  1 Tropical Island
                  1 Strip Mine
                  1 Underground Sea
                  1 Polluted Delta

                  // 4 Planeswalker
                  4 Dack Fayden

                  // 6 Sorcery
                  1 Time Walk
                  1 Gitaxian Probe
                  1 Treasure Cruise
                  1 Tinker
                  1 Life from the Loam
                  1 Demonic Tutor

                  // 15 Sideboard
                  // 13 Instant
                  SB: 4 Pyroblast
                  SB: 4 Red Elemental Blast
                  SB: 3 Rakdos Charm
                  SB: 2 Krosan Grip

                  // 2 Sorcery
                  SB: 1 Balance
                  SB: 1 Firespout

                  Possibly an ancient grudge or a swords to plowshares instead of a reb but not neccessarily

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                    msg67183 last edited by

                    Do you not run into Dredge very often? 3 Rakdos Charm is definitely not enough Graveyard Hate for that matchup.

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                      YakuzaXRock last edited by YakuzaXRock

                      3 rakdos is fine. You have a demonic tutor to find one, if you dont draw it by the ton of card drawing, and you have jace to cast them again. If youre afraid to make it until then, theres intuition for loam and strip mine. Theres also Balance to handle bastards.

                      There should be 1 more fetch and 1 volcanic less in the list also.

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                        Macdeath @YakuzaXRock last edited by

                        @yakuzaxrock
                        I see you have intuition and life of the loam. Why not capitalize on this by running a land toolbox and a Marit lage package.

                        I don't understand why you are running gush in a deck with 9 islands/fetches that wants to go t1 bazaar?

                        Your disruption package/sideboard plan seems very light against combo, shops and dredge. How are you boarding in 8 blasts against blue decks when that's supposed to be your good matchup?

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                          YakuzaXRock @Macdeath last edited by YakuzaXRock

                          @macdeath
                          Thanks.

                          Maybe the land idea should be tested. It looks a little slow and requires mana, which the bazaar deck is sorta slow at. But testing would tell. Usually you kill with colos not damage...

                          Gush is not as great in this deck as others, but it still has its tricks why it stays. You can use it as regular mana boost+against wastelands with a little minus as the opponent usually tries to kill your groves which you cant bounce. The gush lands can go to fayden discard or bazaar.

                          If theres a ton of workshop you can add more ancient grudges which is a fine card with bazaar and intuition. Theres just no room! You need a lot of blasts against leovold and control in general. Rebs are good right now, always been but stops many key drawing spells anything blue matchup wise paradox, oath mentor etc etc and good with fayden.

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                            YakuzaXRock last edited by

                            New update:
                            assasin's trophy vs leyline void/rest in peace and vs oath, or bazaar dredge. You can use jace with it. Gush is out... while a great card, most people will still waste-target only your groves anyway so you dont get to use it.

                            // 60 maindeck

                            // 8 artifact
                            //

                            // 60 Maindeck
                            // 8 Artifact
                            1 Black Lotus
                            1 Mox Sapphire
                            1 Mox Jet
                            1 Mox Emerald
                            1 Mox Pearl
                            1 Mox Ruby
                            1 Sol Ring
                            1 Mana Crypt

                            // 9 Creature
                            4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
                            1 Monastery Mentor
                            3 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
                            1 Blightsteel Colossus

                            // 16 Instant
                            4 Force of Will
                            1 Ancestral Recall
                            1 Dig Through Time
                            3 Intuition
                            4 Mental Misstep
                            1 Assassin's Trophy
                            1 Rakdos Charm
                            1 Brainstorm

                            // 18 Land
                            4 Bazaar of Baghdad
                            2 Volcanic Island
                            1 Flooded Strand
                            4 Grove of the Burnwillows
                            1 Tundra
                            1 Tropical Island
                            2 Underground Sea
                            2 Polluted Delta
                            1 Scalding Tarn

                            // 4 Planeswalker
                            4 Dack Fayden

                            // 5 Sorcery
                            1 Time Walk
                            1 Gitaxian Probe
                            1 Treasure Cruise
                            1 Tinker
                            1 Demonic Tutor

                            // 15 Sideboard
                            // 14 Instant
                            SB: 4 Pyroblast
                            SB: 4 Red Elemental Blast
                            SB: 2 Rakdos Charm
                            SB: 3 Assassin's Trophy
                            SB: 1 Punishing Fire

                            // 1 Sorcery
                            SB: 1 Balance

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                              Dr. J last edited by

                              So... You maindeck 4 groves but only run 1 Punishing Fire, and it's in the sideboard?

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                                A Former User last edited by A Former User

                                I think you should rely a bit less in the Squee engine. If you get hit by Leyline or Tormod's Crypt or whatever, a whole part of your deck falls apart. You have:

                                4 Squee
                                3 Jace, Vryn
                                4 Dack
                                3 Intuition
                                4 Bazaar

                                That's 18 slots that are useless under any gy hate, which is very common in the format. I'd tone it down. Take You can take 1 of each of those cards out, get 5 slots for other stuff in the deck.

                                And yeah, 4 Groves for 1 Fire is a bit too much too, I guess.

                                EDIT: Also, 8 REB on the side? I don't think that's even a plan. Put some Grudges and Null Rods there and take out 4-5 of those. 🙂

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                                  nedleeds last edited by

                                  So many green cards and no riftstone portal, and lots of groves and 1 pfire seem awkward at a glance. Portal going to your yard is like wild growthing your bazaars.

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                                    msg67183 last edited by

                                    I threw together my own version of Bazaar Control 2K18:

                                    Mana (23):
                                    4 City of Brass
                                    4 Mana Confluence
                                    4 Grove of the Burnwillows
                                    3 Riftstone Portal
                                    Strip Mine
                                    Library of Alexandria
                                    Black Lotus
                                    Mox Sapphire
                                    Mox Jet
                                    Mox Emerald
                                    Mox Ruby
                                    Mox Pearl

                                    Engine (8):
                                    4 Bazaar of Baghdad
                                    4 Squee, Goblin Nabob

                                    Planeswalkers (7):
                                    3 Dack Fayden
                                    2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
                                    2 Daretti, Scrap Savant

                                    Broken Spells (4):
                                    Ancestral Recall
                                    Demonic Tutor
                                    Tinker
                                    Time Walk

                                    Removal (11):
                                    4 Abrupt Decay
                                    4 Punishing Fire
                                    3 Ancient Grudge

                                    Creatures (2):
                                    1 Notion Thief
                                    1 Blightsteel Colossus

                                    Recursion (1):
                                    1 Life from the Loam

                                    Prison (4):
                                    3 Null Rod
                                    Trinisphere

                                    Sideboard:
                                    4 Tormod's Crypt
                                    4 Mindbreak Trap
                                    3 Maelstrom Pulse
                                    2 Notion Thief
                                    2 Nihil Spellbomb

                                    The deck attacks the meta on a different axis than other Control decks. Instead of trying to counter the opponent's Paradoxical Outcome, I'd rather Notion Thief them and draw a shit ton of cards. I also designed the deck to be completely Misstep proof, with the exception of 2 Nihil Spellbomb, which can be brought back via Daretti, and Ancestral Recall, because its Ancestral Recall. The removal Suite is pretty solid, especially against Workshops, of course. What are everyone's thoughts on this idea?

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                                      YakuzaXRock last edited by

                                      Current and probably final version!!!

                                      // 60 Maindeck
                                      // 8 Artifact
                                      1 Mox Emerald
                                      1 Mox Jet
                                      1 Mox Pearl
                                      1 Mox Ruby
                                      1 Mox Sapphire
                                      1 Black Lotus
                                      1 Sol Ring
                                      1 Mana Crypt

                                      // 10 Creature
                                      4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
                                      4 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
                                      1 Blightsteel Colossus
                                      1 Monastery Mentor

                                      // 15 Instant
                                      3 Intuition
                                      4 Force of Will
                                      4 Mental Misstep
                                      1 Ancestral Recall
                                      1 Dig Through Time
                                      1 Brainstorm
                                      1 Assassin's Trophy

                                      // 18 Land
                                      4 Bazaar of Baghdad
                                      2 Underground Sea
                                      2 Volcanic Island
                                      2 Polluted Delta
                                      1 Flooded Strand
                                      1 Scalding Tarn
                                      4 Grove of the Burnwillows
                                      1 Tundra
                                      1 Tropical Island

                                      // 4 Planeswalker
                                      4 Dack Fayden

                                      // 5 Sorcery
                                      1 Time Walk
                                      1 Demonic Tutor
                                      1 Tinker
                                      1 Treasure Cruise
                                      1 Gitaxian Probe

                                      // 15 Sideboard
                                      // 15 Instant
                                      SB: 3 Assassin's Trophy
                                      SB: 2 Rakdos Charm
                                      SB: 4 Red Elemental Blast
                                      SB: 4 Pyroblast
                                      SB: 1 Punishing Fire
                                      SB: 1 Ancient Grudge

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                                        YakuzaXRock last edited by YakuzaXRock

                                        final 2019 new year deck!

                                        Lotus petal for speeding up a turn 1 with jace or fayden, works good with treasure cruise dig delving and jace 5, and balance + a monk, plus better colors for assassin's trophy and overall manabase. Slightly strengthening the sb for dredge matchup with a rav trap to keep up the speed instead of a reb, so you can cast that rakdos charm in the end. Lots of fetches for a delve and jace 5 plus right colors.

                                        // 60 Maindeck
                                        // 9 Artifact
                                        1 Lotus Petal
                                        1 Black Lotus
                                        1 Mox Emerald
                                        1 Mox Jet
                                        1 Mox Pearl
                                        1 Mox Ruby
                                        1 Mox Sapphire
                                        1 Sol Ring
                                        1 Mana Crypt

                                        // 10 Creature
                                        4 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
                                        4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
                                        1 Monastery Mentor
                                        1 Blightsteel Colossus

                                        // 14 Instant
                                        1 Ancestral Recall
                                        1 Brainstorm
                                        3 Intuition
                                        4 Force of Will
                                        1 Dig Through Time
                                        4 Mental Misstep

                                        // 18 Land
                                        4 Bazaar of Baghdad
                                        2 Volcanic Island
                                        4 Grove of the Burnwillows
                                        2 Polluted Delta
                                        1 Tundra
                                        1 Tropical Island
                                        1 Underground Sea
                                        1 Flooded Strand
                                        2 Scalding Tarn

                                        // 4 Planeswalker
                                        4 Dack Fayden

                                        // 5 Sorcery
                                        1 Time Walk
                                        1 Tinker
                                        1 Treasure Cruise
                                        1 Gitaxian Probe
                                        1 Demonic Tutor

                                        // 15 Sideboard
                                        // 14 Instant
                                        SB: 4 Assassin's Trophy
                                        SB: 1 Punishing Fire
                                        SB: 1 Rakdos Charm
                                        SB: 1 Red Elemental Blast
                                        SB: 4 Pyroblast
                                        SB: 1 Ravenous Trap
                                        SB: 2 Ancient Grudge

                                        // 1 Sorcery
                                        SB: 1 Balance

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                                          YakuzaXRock last edited by YakuzaXRock

                                          Last tweak:

                                          The manabase a bit more stable now, although mentor is tougher to cast but 3 sources should do it. SB vs dredge stronger, and vs blue decks. Cut Balance, too situational.

                                          // 60 Maindeck
                                          // 9 Artifact
                                          1 Lotus Petal
                                          1 Black Lotus
                                          1 Mox Emerald
                                          1 Mox Jet
                                          1 Mox Pearl
                                          1 Mox Ruby
                                          1 Mox Sapphire
                                          1 Sol Ring
                                          1 Mana Crypt

                                          // 10 Creature
                                          4 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
                                          4 Squee, Goblin Nabob
                                          1 Monastery Mentor
                                          1 Blightsteel Colossus

                                          // 14 Instant
                                          1 Ancestral Recall
                                          1 Brainstorm
                                          3 Intuition
                                          4 Force of Will
                                          1 Dig Through Time
                                          4 Mental Misstep
                                          1 Punishing Fire

                                          // 18 Land
                                          4 Bazaar of Baghdad
                                          2 Volcanic Island
                                          4 Grove of the Burnwillows
                                          1 Polluted Delta
                                          2 Underground Sea
                                          1 Flooded Strand
                                          2 Scalding Tarn
                                          1 Tropical Island

                                          // 4 Planeswalker
                                          4 Dack Fayden

                                          // 5 Sorcery
                                          1 Time Walk
                                          1 Tinker
                                          1 Treasure Cruise
                                          1 Gitaxian Probe
                                          1 Demonic Tutor

                                          // 15 Sideboard
                                          // 15 Instant
                                          SB: 4 Assassin's Trophy
                                          SB: 2 Rakdos Charm
                                          SB: 1 Red Elemental Blast
                                          SB: 1 Punishing Fire
                                          SB: 4 Pyroblast
                                          SB: 1 Ancient Grudge
                                          SB: 1 Ravenous Trap
                                          SB: 1 Punishing Fire

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                                            Megustalabanana last edited by

                                            I like the deck, seems like a lot of fun. Who doesn't love to draw cards? This deck draws ALOT, i like it.
                                            Can you give more insights about the different MUs? How the deck plays, feels, to you?
                                            Also, wich one is the hardest MU and wich deck you feel is the 'easy win' , if it has any.

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