Navigation

    The Mana Drain

    • Register
    • Login
    • Search
    • Strategy
    • Community
    • Tournaments
    • Recent

    [M19] Nicol Bolas, The Ravager/Nicol Bolas, The Arisen

    Single-Card Discussion
    11
    15
    7597
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • Ten-Ten
      Ten-Ten last edited by

      As much as I despise Big Nic, I really like this card as the creature as a 4/4 flying ravenous rats more than its transformed part.
      Might as well have done a non-planeswalker Nic at 4UURRBB
      With these abilities:
      ETB: each opponent discards two cards at random.
      2U: Divination.
      2R: Deal 10 to a creature or planeswalker.
      B: "Reanimate" creature or planeswalker.

      "Memnarch or the vedalken salvage most of the large machines, leaving us only scraps. Scraps are enough."

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • BlindTherapy
        BlindTherapy @5space last edited by

        @5space because all planeswalkers are legendary and none of them get it

        A grave is the safest place to store ill-gotten treasures.

        NYSE 3 winner, vintage champs 2015 top 4, vintage champs mox emerald 2021 top 4.

        Unban Shahrazad.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
        • T
          Thewhitedragon69 last edited by

          4 mana for a 4/4 flyer isn't awful, but it's not great either. I think you could do more with Zahid - the 5/6 flying djinn for 3U.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • S
            Serracollector last edited by

            The sorcery restriction on the flip is what kills this for me. If you could EOT flip him or in response to a kill card do it, it would be at least better.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
            • nedleeds
              nedleeds last edited by

              Probably either needed Mind Rot or another couple of decent abilities ... either Haste or maybe some weird targeting ability like any spell targeting him on the battlefield or stack costs 3 more. As is the flip ability seems like a pipe dream until we get a reliable transform spell / land to cheat transformers. He's competing with some other powerful legends that can be Pyro and Hydroblasted like Kess, Mishra, and Mairsil who don't really get played currently.

              @TeamTuskMTG on Twitter
              Sometimes caster on Tusk Talk

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • Y
                YakuzaXRock last edited by

                MAYBE in some Bug variant with deathrite shaman, this one isnt too bad with all moxes and lotus floating around.

                Stormanimagus 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • Stormanimagus
                  Stormanimagus @YakuzaXRock last edited by

                  @yakuzaxrock I think Kess, Dissident Mage is almost always just better.

                  Y 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                  • Y
                    YakuzaXRock @Stormanimagus last edited by

                    @stormanimagus said in [M19] Nicol Bolas, The Ravager/Nicol Bolas, The Arisen:

                    @yakuzaxrock I think Kess, Dissident Mage is almost always just better.

                    Yes. Both are legendary too and will be bounced by the almighty Karakas!

                    BlindTherapy 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • BlindTherapy
                      BlindTherapy @YakuzaXRock last edited by

                      @yakuzaxrock if they every tap out the karakas it only takes 11 mana in one turn to make something that doesn't get karakased

                      A grave is the safest place to store ill-gotten treasures.

                      NYSE 3 winner, vintage champs 2015 top 4, vintage champs mox emerald 2021 top 4.

                      Unban Shahrazad.

                      Y 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • Y
                        YakuzaXRock @BlindTherapy last edited by

                        @blindtherapy
                        Bouncing bolas will be a discard every turn. But both will get reb/pyroblasted too.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • Protoaddict
                          Protoaddict last edited by

                          If you are going to spend the mana on a bolas walker there are other options that win the game faster. Making it a 4/4 flyer for 4 makes it less appealing to me for every format that is not commander or standard.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                          • vaughnbros
                            vaughnbros last edited by

                            Almost guaranteed 2 for 1, and massive potential upside play in a big mana deck. I dont think this is a bad card, but there is a lot of competition at 4.

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                            • First post
                              Last post