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    • AmbivalentDuck
      AmbivalentDuck last edited by

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      Finally, the turn-one drop Gobs has been looking for. He does "everything": ramps, turns on prowl, and doesn't die every time he attacks. If Gobs comes back, it's because of this card + Food Chain combos.

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      • wfain
        wfain last edited by

        Works fine casting Ringleader too.

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          evouga last edited by

          Well, at least he doesn’t get stonewalled by random Prodigies and Shamans. But I fear Vintage Goblins needs a much bigger shot in the arm to become viable again.

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          • AmbivalentDuck
            AmbivalentDuck @evouga last edited by

            @evouga That's not clear to me. There's probably a Food Chain deck.

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            • 13NoVa
              13NoVa last edited by

              Anticipate is the card blue decks so desperately need.

              Brass Man (to me): "Yeah, you're very specific about the things you're really mean about."

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              • 13NoVa
                13NoVa last edited by

                I think you may have missed the following cards tho... they may blow your mind!

                Goblin Lackey
                Skirk Prospector
                Goblin piledriver

                Goblins isnt even a viable deck in Modern when the only two goblins youre missing are Matron and Lackey. Goblins arent a viable deck in Deathright.format WITH those two cards.

                Goblins hasnt been viable since 2004 in vintage, and I doubt a 1/1 for 1R that has no evasion and has to connect to make some other fucking terrible red (or black) creature cheaper is not going to make it better than tier 395858584383731616375958

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                • AmbivalentDuck
                  AmbivalentDuck last edited by AmbivalentDuck

                  You seem to have misread the card: it's a 2/2 and you get the bonus from just declaring the attack. I'm pretty sure this is red Lotus Cobra. Is that Vintage playable? Dunno. The big thing holding back Food Chain Goblins is that there's no obvious kill. You can reliably make infi mana every game, but you have no good outlets that don't require a non-Goblin tutor.

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                  • 13NoVa
                    13NoVa last edited by

                    I didnt need to read the card. Lotus cobra hasnt been playable since 2009 either. This card, and goblins, are trash.

                    Unless goblins miraculously are amazing versus 4x swords from mentor, combo, walking ballistas, AND oath of druids.

                    But yeah - they won one SCG 11 years ago pilotted by a guy who cheated with his kiki jikis, and havent done anything before OR after.

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                    • Protoaddict
                      Protoaddict last edited by

                      I mean, is it viable outside of goblins? The fact that it is a gob does not change the fact that its ability is relevant to any deck that can pull it off. It can ramp you into a turn 2 JTMS or Karn for instance.

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                      • AmbivalentDuck
                        AmbivalentDuck @13NoVa last edited by

                        @13nova I think you're very confused. Wizards intentionally has gone many years without printing a new, playable Goblin specifically because they were so oppressive in Legacy. Moreover, they would be oppressive in Legacy if Goblin Recruiter was unbanned. Food Chain isn't in Modern.

                        As to the removal and combo you listed, Earwig Squads have always given Goblins a strongly favorable matchup against combo. It used to have a favorable matchup against Oath, but it always had a poor matchup against Brian Kelly. The removal you mention doesn't do anything against Squee or Food Chain.

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                        • AmbivalentDuck
                          AmbivalentDuck @Protoaddict last edited by

                          @protoaddct said in [BBD] Cheering Fanatic:

                          I mean, is it viable outside of goblins? The fact that it is a gob does not change the fact that its ability is relevant to any deck that can pull it off. It can ramp you into a turn 2 JTMS or Karn for instance.

                          It seems craptacular as ramp unless you care that it's a Goblin or you abuse the fact that it's a cost reduction and play something many many times. My first thought was something like 2x Top + Prowess, but that fails in a variety of ways.

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                          • 13NoVa
                            13NoVa last edited by

                            Earwig squad...

                            Youre stuck in 2006. Paradox laughs at your shit creature. Show up and donateyour entry at SCGCon if you think Goblins is good.

                            Tier 395,858,584,383,731,616,375,958

                            That is for the record, tier 395 septillion and change.

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                            • John Cox
                              John Cox last edited by John Cox

                              Worth noting, this dodges misstep.

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                                • 13NoVa
                                  13NoVa @Guest last edited by

                                  @hierarchnoble Do you really need a shitty creature in order to have that effect?

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                                    A Former User @Guest last edited by

                                    @hierarchnoble I'd say even if you wanted that, [[Goblin Electromancer]] is probably better in that said deck. Doesn't reduce Dack's cost but may be able to generate more than 1 mana per turn.

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                                      • vaughnbros
                                        vaughnbros last edited by

                                        Reducing the cost of anything certainly seems a lot better than just reducing the cost of Goblins.

                                        Combos with Sensei's top like Helm of Awakening (infinite storm w/ two or infinite draw w/ future sight). But doesnt give your opponent a boost like Helm.

                                        Outside of combos, functions as a generic mana accelerator for other spells while getting in 2 damage every turn.

                                        Major bluff factor with counterspells

                                        Look forward to trying it.

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                                        • AmbivalentDuck
                                          AmbivalentDuck last edited by

                                          I'm wondering if Food Chain Goblins really just wants 4x Grapeshot.

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                                          • Brass Man
                                            Brass Man last edited by

                                            I don't know enough about Goblins to know if this card is any good ... but golly, this set has something for everyone and I'm loving it.

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