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    • Oestrus
      Oestrus last edited by

      Oh, great. You jerks are running Priest now. šŸ˜›

      "Death is no excuse to stop working."

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      • wfain
        wfain @Oestrus last edited by

        @oestrus honestly I was beating dredge most of the time without it.

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        • kaluma
          kaluma @thecravenone last edited by

          @thecravenone fantastic!! were you on the Bant version or 4-color?

          dredge matchup is a little swingy. I wanted the priests because i wanted to help there and maybe get a few more percentage points against oath. I've found that the die roll matters a ton. Dredge will probably kill you turn 2 unimpeded, but we can also kill around turn 2 or 3 as well with an aggressive draw. Post board, if you don't have a super aggressive hand just having a single trap isn't always enough (especially since i'm off the DRS plan).

          I'm probably going to stream a little bit tonight and possibly tomorrow if anyone wants to come hang out! https://www.twitch.tv/kaluma47

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            bleedth3sky last edited by

            Well shit guess I'm buying heirarchs. That 4c list @wfain looks what my list has evolved to minus the quellers and dorks seems real solid.

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            • thecravenone
              thecravenone @kaluma last edited by

              @kaluma said in Survival Salad:

              @thecravenone fantastic!! were you on the Bant version or 4-color?

              Playing the Bant list I mentioned in my post.;

              Keep or mull, in the blind:

              Wooded Foothills
              Black Lotus
              Elvish Spirit Guide
              Elvish Spriit Guide
              Noble Hierarch
              Basking Rootwalla

              I kept and went Foothills into Savanna, Lotus, Thalia, Noble, Rootwalla. He killed the Thalia and I top decked another and won the game on Rootwalla beats.

              Quote from: Stormanimagus on March 16, 2016, 06:39:41 pm
              >Instead of tearing things down we should calmly explain our opinions.

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              • kaluma
                kaluma @thecravenone last edited by

                @thecravenone that 6 certainly doesn't seem good, but mulling to 5 also sounds miserable. If it's those 6 plus thalia i would certainly keep and hope to be playing against blue. As is, probably still a keep regardless. Glad it got there!

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                • wfain
                  wfain last edited by

                  @kaluma posted legit 5-0 with the 4c queller list from a couple posts up. Wins against Shops, Storm, 3 Titan Oath, WB hate bears, and Grixis PO/Gifts hybrid.

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                  • Protoaddict
                    Protoaddict last edited by

                    Has anyone tried Street Wraith in this list? Not really a fetchable target but can help activate Hollow One or dig for needed cards.

                    Normally not a fan of the whole 56 effective cards list but the card has other utility for the list so I could see it being a role player.

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                    • wfain
                      wfain @Protoaddict last edited by wfain

                      @protoaddct I think you’d have to cut ESG for it, which is bad. And helping Hollow One really doesn’t matter very often since if you use Bazaar he’s free already and if you are on only GG for Survival you generally either have time to set up for next turn, an extra creature where you can search up ESG or a non-green Mox laying around

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                      • wfain
                        wfain last edited by

                        Another 5-0 with the 4c. That’s back to back, and five overall. That version is pretty tight.

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                        • wfain
                          wfain last edited by

                          4-2 in the Challenge today. Both losses to Outcome. Probably gonna finish in 10th. I don’t think I won a die roll the whole day. I’m at the point where I beat just about everything that isn’t Outcome. I’m even beating Oath a reasonable percentage at this point.
                          The only way I can figure to be better vs Outcome is to play more Thalia, Quellers, and maybe try to have access to Pyroblast. That, most likely, would require losing black cards, but it would give access to Ancient Grudge and would put Anger back in the fold. Not sure I like that over Dark Confidant and Abrupt Decay.

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                          • BlindTherapy
                            BlindTherapy @wfain last edited by

                            @wfain is meddling mage a consideration?

                            A grave is the safest place to store ill-gotten treasures.

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                            Unban Shahrazad.

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                            • wfain
                              wfain @BlindTherapy last edited by

                              @blindtherapy I have though about it before, but never tried it. Maybe it’s better than queller in the specific matchup, but idk

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                                p3temangus last edited by

                                The problem with meddling mage is that you really need 2, unless you immediately follow up with a thalia or null rod.

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                                • Oestrus
                                  Oestrus @wfain last edited by

                                  @wfain I totally read "Quellers" as 'Queers." Wat.

                                  "Death is no excuse to stop working."

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                                  • wfain
                                    wfain @Oestrus last edited by

                                    @oestrus lol. I hope I didn’t type that!

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                                    • Oestrus
                                      Oestrus @wfain last edited by

                                      @wfain No! It just shows where my head is at. #Pride

                                      "Death is no excuse to stop working."

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                                        Serracollector last edited by

                                        Is Sanctum Prelate too far a stretch? It on zero dampers PO I would imagine.

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                                        • wfain
                                          wfain @Serracollector last edited by

                                          @serracollector can’t do double white without playing a bunch of Riftstone Portal

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                                            highsididy1 last edited by highsididy1

                                            Isn’t that what gaddock teeg is for. Also what about silence?

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