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    Traxos is absolutely insane

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    • Yespuhyren
      Yespuhyren last edited by Yespuhyren

      I have been testing him in shop aggro as Lodestone 2-5 since the day he was previewed (a few weeks ago), and he is already my favourite workshop creature of all time right beside Lodestone

      So many people seem to think his untap ability is a downside, but it's arguably one of his better features. He's not a 7/7 trample with untap issues, he is a 7/7 Trample with Vigilance.

      I'd post a list, but I can comfortably say if you are playing shop aggro play 4 regardless of your list. He is that good

      For reference :
      Traxos, Scourge of Kroog
      4
      Legendary Artifact Creature - Construct
      7/7 trample
      Comes into play tapped
      Doesn't untap during untap step
      Whenever you play an historic untap him

      Nothing but Workshops since 2003

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      • wfain
        wfain @Yespuhyren last edited by

        @yespuhyren 🤷🏻‍♂️I’ve found it pretty easy to beat. I don’t play shops though, just against it. WCE and Precursor Golemn are much more difficult. What are you cutting to play 4?

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          ribby @Yespuhyren last edited by

          @yespuhyren do you cast it turn 1 or 2? I’ve been mulling this topic since you posted. I can envision it being way better in turn 2 as a way to capture the same sort of feel as LSG (same clock, one more card required to achieve the same soft lock).

          Worth testing as a T2 play?

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          • Yespuhyren
            Yespuhyren @ribby last edited by Yespuhyren

            @wfain Wurmcoil is an entirely different beast at 6 mana, and I never play less than 2. Traxos is more like Lodestone 2 to 5. Precursor was great, but a single bolt kills it plus the copies. Traxos also has trample.

            @ribby it doesn't matter when you cast it, it is a beast. If you have turn 1 Lodestone you play that, if not play a Sphere turn 1 and Traxos turn 2.

            There are many other situations where you won't have those cards and slamming turn 1 Traxos then mox or Chalice to untap it is fantastic

            For reference, here is what I am running

            Blitzkrieg v7.7

            4x Walking Ballista
            4x Arcbound Ravager
            4x Phyrexian Revoker
            4x Foundry Inspector
            4x Traxos, Scourge of Kroog
            1x Lodestone Golem
            2x Wurmcoil Engine

            1x Chalice of the Void
            4x Sphere of Resistance
            1x Thorn of Amethyst
            1x Umezawa's Jitte
            1x Trinisphere
            4x Tangle Wire

            7x SoLoMoxen
            1x Mana Crypt
            1x Mana Vault

            4x Mishra's Workshop
            4x Ancient Tomb
            4x Wasteland
            2x Mishra's Factory
            1x Tolarian Academy
            1x Strip Mine

            This is my favourite shop list to date, and I've played shops since before the 4x Trinisphere days

            Nothing but Workshops since 2003

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              ribby @Yespuhyren last edited by

              @yespuhyren you don’t open yourself up to Swords in T1 while letting your opponent develop mana? That’s what I’d worry about with T1 Traxos.

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              • BlindTherapy
                BlindTherapy @Yespuhyren last edited by

                @yespuhyren chalice to untap vs chalice turn 1 seems subpar

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                  kistrand @Yespuhyren last edited by

                  @yespuhyren Might be a dumb shops-noob question, but which 2 additional moxen do you run to get to 7 in total?

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                    babau last edited by

                    SOLOMOXEN=
                    SOl ring=1
                    LOtus=1
                    mox= 5
                    tot 7

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                    • Yespuhyren
                      Yespuhyren @BlindTherapy last edited by

                      @blindtherapy Do you not know he comes into play tapped? Turn 1 Traxos and Chalice 0 to untap him is a monster of a turn 1 play...

                      Nothing but Workshops since 2003

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                        babau last edited by

                        would not it be better to play it in 3x since it is legendary?

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                        • Yespuhyren
                          Yespuhyren @babau last edited by Yespuhyren

                          @babau I started testing at 3 and immediately moved to 4. You want it every game, and having one extra in hand as backup for artifact destruction is great given how much main deck artifact hate there is now.

                          In extreme cases you can even cast the second one to untap the original to swing again. You don't want to do it often, but if you have a Traxos with a bunch of counters from a Ravager or you are swinging for game it is great

                          Nothing but Workshops since 2003

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                            babau last edited by

                            about the lands you have not found any problems playing only 16?

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                            • Yespuhyren
                              Yespuhyren @babau last edited by Yespuhyren

                              @babau I have been running 16 lands in Ravager based shop aggro for over a decade and it has been great, and that was before we got Foundry Inspector.

                              He took it from uncomfortable but good to barely an issue.

                              I didn't change a thing to accommodate for Traxos, I have been playing this exact list except had 2 Hangarback 2 skullclamp. The day I saw the Traxos preview I cut those and proxied in 3 then 4 Traxos

                              Having 44 artifacts makes him so good...

                              Nothing but Workshops since 2003

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                                babau last edited by

                                the choices of the deck are obliged I think we can only discuss about:
                                mana vault
                                3-4 traxos
                                jitte
                                wurmicol
                                what other options have you evaluated?
                                in what metagame do you usually play?

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                                • Yespuhyren
                                  Yespuhyren @babau last edited by Yespuhyren

                                  @babau I have been playing workshop aggro since 2003 (back when 4x Juggernaut and 4x Su-Chi were staples). My list has literally been constantly evolving since then, amd changes every time a good card is released. Shops are my baby, and all I play haha

                                  As far as options, I test everything. I own every playable artifact and when my deck stops performing as well as I would like I change it up, no limits on anything I test

                                  Right now this is my favourite version of workshops I have ever played by far. I wish we had more lock pieces but everything is restricted outside of Tangle Wire and Sphere which I play 4 of

                                  Nothing but Workshops since 2003

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                                    babau last edited by

                                    a curiosity:
                                    what is the reason for the exclusion of these cards?
                                    Steel Overseer
                                    Phyrexian Metamorph
                                    Chief of the Foundry
                                    compared to:
                                    mana vault
                                    jtte
                                    wurmicol
                                    4° taraxos: ok this is you personal preference for strong start.

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                                      babau last edited by

                                      in particular metamorph in a deck that use tangle give you more options for lock and beat.

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                                        babau last edited by

                                        other possibility is
                                        out
                                        tangle
                                        2 wurm
                                        1 jitte
                                        1 traxos
                                        in
                                        3-4 metamorph : give you to much good play
                                        4-5 steel and/or chief
                                        1-2 mishra
                                        the deck has many more answers.

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                                          babau last edited by

                                          we should do it between the package:
                                          steel + worker + ballista + revoker
                                          and
                                          ballista + revoker + tarxos +?

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                                            babau last edited by

                                            ravage not revoker sorry!

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