@hierarchnoble

This is spot on. Realms uncharted may theoretically be intriguing, but there are numerous cards that the deck is already not playing that are far better.

If you want a faster clock -> Crop Rotation
If you want a 3 mana multi card tutor -> Intuition
If you simply want a good tutor -> Gamble

These are 3 very clear better cards that serve a similar function and are borderline playable in the deck.

@vaughnbros said in Vintage Lands:

@hierarchnoble

This is spot on. Realms uncharted may theoretically be intriguing, but there are numerous cards that the deck is already not playing that are far better.

If you want a faster clock -> Crop Rotation
If you want a 3 mana multi card tutor -> Intuition
If you simply want a good tutor -> Gamble

These are 3 very clear better cards that serve a similar function and are borderline playable in the deck.

I'm really surprised no one has mentioned gifts ungiven in this discussion.

last edited by John Cox

@john-cox isn't gifts just even slower intuition/realms uncharted in this deck?

its similar to realms uncharted but can find loam or another non land card.

Taking this deck for a spin tomorrow at the ELD open. Wish me luck, and a tournament report will follow after.

Hello,

I have a tried this deck a little bit, just testing it out with a friend but have not tried it on mtgo yet. My question is whether or not the Grove of the Burnwillows are necessary? We found that often gaining the opponent life would matter, as it would make Lage take an additional swing to kill them.

Has anyone else encountered this problem? And if so, is it simply something we have to live with because punishing fire is an absolute necessity?

On mtgo the meta seems to be a lot of URx draw-go decks, not a ton of shops or dredge, survival here and there, almost 0 oath decks, played against it 1 time in the past month. PO exists too, but not in incredibly high numbers, I'm usually the one playing it myself, more often than not my opponent is on a blue deck. Not sure how I would configure the 75 for that, or if the deck would even be a good choice in that field.

last edited by DrawCardsWin

@childe_roland Crucible is very bad against Dack Faden, it does seem like there should be a slot for it in vintage lands, even in the board against shops but funnily it's not quite as good as you'd think.

A few weeks ago @ChubbyRain played this deck. I have no clue how he did because I didn't watch, but The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale and Bojuka Bog seem like the only damn cards left that Dredge doesn't build to sidestep in a post-London world. Bonus points for stunting on anyone brewing with Mystic Gate (EDIT: Mystic Forge. Thanks unremarkable WotC card names!) a la Force of Vigor.

last edited by Anonymous

Wow, Wrenn & Six are strong. I also made up a list and tested a bit, which is the direction I see the lands deck going. The list is a huge pile of 75.

3 Mox Diamond
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Emerald
1 Black Lotus

1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Trinisphere
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Zuran Orb
1 Fastbond
1 Sylvan Library

1 Ancestral Recall
2 Enlightened Tutor
3 Mental Misstep
2 Force of Vigor
1 Ancient Grudge

1 Strip Mine
1 Ghost Quarter
3 Wasteland

3 Riftstone Portal
3 Bazaar of Baghdad
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
2 Taiga
1 Waterlogged Grove
1 Fiery Islet
1 Savannah
1 Tropical Island
3 Wooded Foothills
1 Dark Depths
2 Thespian's Stage

4 Wrenn and Six
1 Dack Fayden

1 Time Walk
3 Life from the Loam
1 Balance
4 Living Wish
1 Wheel of Fortune

1 Ramunap Excavator
1 Collector Ouphe
1 Eternal Witness
1 Yixlid Jailer
1 Tireless Tracker
1 Manglehorn

1 Bojuka Bog
1 Dark Depths
1 Bazaar of Baghdad
1 Ghost Quarter
1 Glacial Chasm
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale

2 Ravenous Trap
1 Force of Vigor

As i've seen, it feels a bit like old 5c Stax lists, denying mana, locking the game up.
(Yes, zuran orb is bad. it is the WIN more button. helps when low on life. draw the deck, infinite life, etc. Courser works, too. kindof. The rest of the cards are legitimate. It is able to win easily with wrenn+waste, then living wish for collector's ouphe.)

It's probably not streamlined enough, though.

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