• Hi Guys
    I haven’t posted on the “new” mana drain site before so be gentle. Lol.

    I wish to talk about doomsday as a deck in modern day vintage. Some pros and cons. If it’s viable. New tools that may help it. What recent restrictions have effected it. And the best strategy Doomsday decks could be adopting in modern vintage.

    So to begin with what are the Pros and Cons of playing Doomsday in vintage these days?
    I feel like the restriction of chalice and thorn should be a pro.
    But (of course) Gush restriction certainly is a punch in the side of Doomsday.
    Is the speed of other decks such as workshop aggro and paradoxical going to be to much for doomsday to handle? Perhaps some advise on speeding up doomsday combos would help remedy this? (Eg more dark rituals, etc)
    I’ve seen an older list of doomsday with gifts ungiven in it (which only played 2 gush) prehapsa build like that could be the next evolution of doomsday?

    Would love to hear from anyone with some constructive advice.

    I will copy and paste a couple of doomsday lists I’ve been tinkering with for reference.

  • Main (60)

    Ancestral Recall
    Black Lotus
    2 Bloodstained Mire
    Chain of Vapor
    2 Dark Ritual
    Demonic Tutor
    Dig Through Time
    4 Doomsday
    3 Duress
    3 Flooded Strand
    4 Force of Will
    Gitaxian Probe
    Hurkyl's Recall
    Imperial Seal
    Laboratory Maniac
    Library of Alexandria
    Lotus Petal
    2 Mental Misstep
    Merchant Scroll
    Mox Jet
    Mox Sapphire
    Mystical Tutor
    3 Polluted Delta
    3 Preordain
    3 Sensei's Divining Top
    2 Steel Sabotage
    Tendrils of Agony
    Time Walk
    4 Underground Sea
    Vampiric Tutor
    Yawgmoth's Will

  • This list is from an article from 2015 so a bit has changed since then...

    4 x Underground Sea
    1 x Island
    2 x Misty Rainforest
    2 x Scalding Tarn
    1 x Flooded Strand
    1 x Verdant Catacombs
    1 x Bloodstained Mire
    4 x Polluted Delta
    1 x Street Wraith
    1 x Laboratory Maniac
    Noncreature Spells
    1 x Sol Ring
    1 x Mana Crypt – Book Promos
    1 x Mox Jet
    1 x Mana Vault
    1 x Lotus Petal
    1 x Mox Sapphire
    1 x Black Lotus
    4 x Dark Ritual
    4 x Force of Will
    4 x Doomsday
    4 x Gifts Ungiven
    2 x Gush
    1 x Thoughtseize
    1 x Imperial Seal
    1 x Duress
    1 x Time Walk
    1 x Brainstorm
    1 x Ponder
    2 x Gitaxian Probe
    1 x Demonic Tutor
    1 x Vampiric Tutor
    1 x Mystical Tutor
    1 x Merchant Scroll
    1 x Yawgmoth’s Will
    1 x Ancestral Recall
    1 x Necropotence
    1 x Tendrils of Agony
    1 x Hurkyl’s Recall
    4 x Tormod’s Crypt
    1 x Grafdigger’s Cage
    1 x Rebuild
    3 x Hurkyl’s Recall
    1 x Steel Sabotage
    2 x Mental Misstep
    1 x Flusterstorm
    1 x Library of Alexandria
    1 x Swamp

  • You might want to consider Apostle's Blessing to protect the Lab Man. Also, I think you need 2 Hurkly's Recall in this meta.

  • See this thread for a good Doomsday discussion:

  • @pugsuperstar thanks man that was a good read