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    • Brass Man
      Brass Man last edited by

      https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/october-17-2017-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2017-10-17

      No Changes.

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      • Brass Man
        Brass Man last edited by

        I think this was more or less what everyone expected? Glad there was no need for a major change 3 days before North American Vintage Champs!

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        • ?
          A Former User last edited by

          I'm pretty stoked that they're back to waiting a full three months between announcements.

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          • ajfirecracker
            ajfirecracker last edited by

            Basic Island makes it another B&R announcement

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            • thecravenone
              thecravenone @ajfirecracker last edited by

              @ajfirecracker said in October 17, 2017 Banned & Restricted announcement:

              Basic Island makes it another B&R announcement

              Shhh! People will find out about my sweet spec target!

              Quote from: Stormanimagus on March 16, 2016, 06:39:41 pm
              >Instead of tearing things down we should calmly explain our opinions.

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              • BlindTherapy
                BlindTherapy @thecravenone last edited by

                @thecravenone said in October 17, 2017 Banned & Restricted announcement:

                @ajfirecracker said in October 17, 2017 Banned & Restricted announcement:

                Basic Island makes it another B&R announcement

                Shhh! People will find out about my sweet spec target!

                Investing in Snow-Covered Island? Smart.

                A grave is the safest place to store ill-gotten treasures.

                NYSE 3 winner, vintage champs 2015 top 4, vintage champs mox emerald 2021 top 4.

                Unban Shahrazad.

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                • ?
                  A Former User last edited by

                  This was expected. The announcement was actually a pretty clear 100% bet for "No changes" in Vintage as soon as they had that errata last announcement.
                  They said they wouldn't change anything before Eternal Weekend and, if they felt they needed to, they'd work a different schedule for Vintage (probably announcing it a few weeks ago or even setting a date right after EW). Since the format seems healthy enough, they didn't have to do either.

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                  • vaughnbros
                    vaughnbros @BlindTherapy last edited by

                    @blindtherapy

                    Restrict the island subtype!

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                    • ajfirecracker
                      ajfirecracker @vaughnbros last edited by

                      @vaughnbros Moonring Island did nothing wrong

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                      • Aelien
                        Aelien last edited by

                        As expected, personally i would love more unrestrictions, but that can wait until after EW. Iam still eager to see how the last unrestriction will perform this weekend.

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                        • John Cox
                          John Cox @vaughnbros last edited by

                          @vaughnbros said in October 17, 2017 Banned & Restricted announcement:

                          @blindtherapy

                          Restrict the island subtype!

                          TBH I usually only play one basic island. If I needed two I could play a snow covered.

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                          • vaughnbros
                            vaughnbros @John Cox last edited by vaughnbros

                            @john-cox

                            The island subtype would include dual lands. You can only play 1 card with Island written on it.

                            Restricting Island subtype along with Workshop and Bazaar is a scorch earth strategy.

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                            • ?
                              A Former User @vaughnbros last edited by

                              @vaughnbros would this also apply to Island Fish Jaconus? You might have an uproar on your hands taking away the Island Fish. That archetype is pretty strong

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                              • vaughnbros
                                vaughnbros @Guest last edited by

                                @poxeveryturn

                                Yes along with an errata to make sure the Island Fish is once again an Island fish.

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                                • ajfirecracker
                                  ajfirecracker @vaughnbros last edited by

                                  @vaughnbros Wow... give every deck with fetches a free 6/8 blocker

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                                  • ?
                                    A Former User @ajfirecracker last edited by

                                    @ajfirecracker ironically if you could fetch for the Island fish I think it just dies. I think you have to have an island in play at all times to keep the alive. Card is super broken.

                                    Unless it were also considered its own island... and a new meta emerges.

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                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @Guest last edited by

                                      @poxeveryturn Uncounterable, fetchable 6/8 on turn 2 is also good enough for me.

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                                      • vaughnbros
                                        vaughnbros @Guest last edited by

                                        @fsecco Cant really reliably attack or untap though and under the propsed scenario you'd be giving up any other islands by playing it.

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User @vaughnbros last edited by A Former User

                                          @vaughnbros spreading seas,attack, then fling, then reanimate. Boom. Broken. Only need the perfect draw and like 4 turns of your opponent doing nothing. Grixis Island Fish...

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                                          • ?
                                            A Former User @vaughnbros last edited by

                                            @vaughnbros I'd assume that if you're playing a 4 Jasconius deck, you're also playing Spreading Seas. The UUU to Untap is bad, but you don't need that, just fetch for another one! 😉

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