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      dragoscar last edited by dragoscar

      Artifact (14)
      1x Black Lotus
      1x Mana Crypt
      1x Mana Vault
      1x Mox Emerald
      1x Mox Jet
      1x Mox Pearl
      1x Mox Ruby
      1x Mox Sapphire
      2x Sensei's Divining Top
      1x Sol Ring
      1x Time Vault
      2x Voltaic Key
      Planeswalker (4)
      2x Jace, the Mind Sculptor
      2x Tezzeret the Seeker
      Creature (1)
      1x Blightsteel Colossus
      Instant (16)
      1x Ancestral Recall
      1x Brainstorm
      1x Fact or Fiction
      1x Flusterstorm
      4x Force of Will
      1x Rebuild
      3x Mana Drain
      2x Mental Misstep
      1x Thirst for Knowledge
      1x Vampiric Tutor
      Land (15)
      2x Flooded Strand
      1x Library of Alexandria
      4x Misty Rainforest
      2x Seat of the Synod
      1x Tolarian Academy
      1x Tropical Island
      2x Underground Sea
      2x Island
      Sorcery (10)
      1x Demonic Tutor
      1x Ponder
      4x Thoughtcast
      1x Time Walk
      1x Tinker
      1x Toxic Deluge
      1x Yawgmoth's Will
      Sideboard (15)
      1x Flusterstorm
      1x Forest
      2x Griselbrand
      1x Hurkyl's Recall
      1x Mental misstep
      4x Oath of Druids
      2x Pithing Needle
      2x Steel Sabotage
      1x Tormod's Crypt

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      • cutlex
        cutlex TMD Supporter last edited by

        .....And?

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          dragoscar last edited by

          Thoughts?

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          • Hrishi
            Hrishi last edited by

            I'm not sure if there is any relevant thoughts or feedback you can have from a decklist that is posted with no comments or anything that follow. I would suggest that if you want any relevant feedback, follow up your post with more information about card choices and such.

            For example, why 1 Fact of Fiction? Why 1 Thirst for Knowledge? Both are unrestricted.

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            • thecravenone
              thecravenone @dragoscar last edited by

              @dragoscar said in Tezzeret control:

              Thoughts?

              This deck is definitely legal in Vintage.

              Quote from: Stormanimagus on March 16, 2016, 06:39:41 pm
              >Instead of tearing things down we should calmly explain our opinions.

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                Saya last edited by

                He has posted a deckbulding thread already:
                http://www.themanadrain.com/topic/926/deck-help-please/20

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                • cutlex
                  cutlex TMD Supporter last edited by

                  I would recommend editing the original post to include a link to that thread, as well as a bit of commentary regarding the deck's evolution and experience in the metagame. Theory at least. Gotta give us something to work with.

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                    dragoscar last edited by

                    Those are 2 separate decks. I have no experience with this deck in the metagame yet because I'm not sure how to play vintage without goldfishing and I really don't like to gold fish, but I think I have a reasonable grasp on the vintage meta game and translated that to the deck however I could be wrong, that's one of my concerns with the deck. Some other concerns I have with it is: Does it need more fast mana in the form of grim monolith or more colored mana in the form of seat of the synod/Island, Is fact or fiction a good enough card, how many mana drains is the right number, how many mental misstep is the right number, does the deck need toxic deluge, do I want nature's claims or more hurkyl's recalls/rebuild,

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                    • Islandswamp
                      Islandswamp TMD Supporter @dragoscar last edited by

                      @dragoscar download cockatrice or MTGO and start practicing. That's my advice. People on here will test with you I bet.

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                      • rbartlet
                        rbartlet last edited by

                        My first thought when I saw this list, was: "Woah!! That's a blast from the past!"

                        I have not seen a Tezzeret-based vault/key deck perform well at a large event recents. I'd suggest that there are a few reasons:

                        • Creatures are everywhere; reducing the value of Tezzeret
                        • Null Rod and Stony Silence see a decent amount of play
                        • Mana Drain is a little slow when put up against Arcbound Ravager and Monastery Mentor
                        • Swords to Plowshares and Dack Fayden are best buddies with Blightsteel Colossus; but poor BSC always feels like the other cards are ganging up on him...

                        In game 1, the lack of removal (either permanent or creature), would hurt, as other decks are much faster (for example, any deck running the Paradoxical Outcome engine).

                        The transformation is cute, but I feel like it leaves the deck somewhat soft to taxing effects, and dredge. A Smokestack-based deck that deploys a Null Rod and some spheres effects, then follows up with some land destruction would be difficult to beat with 15 lands (one of which is colourless, and two of which would be shut off by the rod).

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                          elusive @rbartlet last edited by

                          paradoxical outcome is so much better than Fact of Fiction or Thirst for Knowledge in this deck it's painful to see them.

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