If I were to try this out in a list it would have to be some Mana Denial strategy with strips/wastes, maybe spheres of some form or another. The idea being that this will continue to mill (exile) all Moxen/Lands it hit's until it hits the CMC requirement. No you may not hit that key combo card, but you are likely to hit 5+ mana sources. Throw in spheres/Thalia's, wastelands, Revokers, Null Rods, Ouphes, etc etc, you can easily mana screw any current list. Just my thought on it.

You don't need mill at all to make this guy work.

Like I said, this card is amazing and it just stops Shops and Bazaar decks but it is very hard to play Oath against blue decks right now.

I'll need to come back to this one for sure once I know how to attack the blue decks.

@nofuture said in [MH2] Sol Talisman:

As foretold is a card

If you have a resolved as foretold or some number of electrodominances, would this be the card you wanted to play with it? Once you have it in play mana would seem to be substantially less important for you.

Here are things you could cheat play instead in this situation Sorceries with 0 CMC

Some of these potentially end the game on the spot like Living End or Gaea's will in the right build, so I am not sure why 2 mana is suddenly a thing you need. If the argument is you can suspend the card for value late game, I would probably rather make two 4/4s to close out the game.

Likewise I would make the argument that any deck that is considering this card would probably be considering Lotus Bloom first, and that just seems like it would win out in most deck building considerations.

@dshin said in [MH2] Endurance:

Could this be used in the RUG Elementals deck? One of the noted weaknesses of the deck in the thread was a poor dredge matchup.

In so much that the elementals list was ever a deck I cannot see why not. This and Grief both play really well with risen reef in mitigating the pitch cost, and a 3/4 flash creature on it's own is decent for playing on the stack EOT, which is not something that Elementals have typically been known for. It stops snapcaster, it stops dredge and bridges since you can order the sac trigger to happen even before the shuffle, and if you get in front of it stops delve.

@botvinik Replace those thought casts with the new 2/2 flyer and this jawn is golden.

I'd also run Tinker to tutor for Trinisphere/Forge/Lodestone, and for Wurmcoil postboard.

I have no respect for a summoning sick Tormod's Crypt

Thanks for the feedback!

All the above aside, there is no way this would be a 2/2 for 6 mana when all the other incarnations have at least ok stats.

It's also missing a color appropriate keyword.

And again, the name, come on, an incarnation that does that would be called Denial.

It's not only a fake, it's a very bad fake.

@blindtherapy said in [MH2] Murktide Regent:

sprite dragon has been around for a bit and certainly seen play.

I think this might actually compete for that slot honestly. Like Sprite Dragon this can grow after it is down which is nice if you are trying to bring Uro out the yard.

I’m going to go out on a limb and call this guy the best card in the set.

@botvinik

Yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Magic:the_Gathering_Standard(Type_II)

And all of the major tournaments have decklists and coverage on wizards main site.

@revengeanceful said in [MH2] Fury:

@lienielsen Was just an example. Insert any other planeswalker there if it's better for you.

Removing any PW with this is a terrible deal. Not only they still get 1 activation, which usually is already card advantage, but you 2 for 1 yourself to remove it. So it's a 3 for 1, which is not where you want to be. That enchantment that deals 5 damage every eot is better, and even that's a bit bad.

Also, this doesn't even kill Oko.

@protoaddict said in [MH2] Tide Shaper:

In all honesty, I'm not sure how much better this is than Aquitect's Will in a Merfolk shell.

aquitect's will makes a land an island in addition to its other types; this makes something an island (like Spreading Seas). as such the former just enables islandwalk while this actually messes with people's mana/bazaar/etc. I don't know if it makes the cut (spreading seas doesn't, last i checked, but that's always a 2 drop and never a creature), likely not given the status of the tribe as a whole, but they are very different effects.

@wagner
That's actually very live.

The trick that has been around for many years is Nev's Disk with Hurkyl's Recall. You activate the disk and put the effect on the stack then cast Hurkyl's Recall to get back your disk and any other artifacts that would have gotten blown up.

@fsecco I just don't think this is that good. we will have to see how this one pans out. As I love green, I hope I'm wrong!😎