Kevin Cron and Steve Menendian discuss six Vintage scenarios.

https://www.eternalcentral.com/so-many-insane-plays-podcast-episode-98-vintage-scenarios/

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0:01:00: Announcements
0:11:20: Scenario 1: Find the Win: Doomsday vs. Dredge
0:30:20: Scenario 2: Sequencing Artifacts: Shops vs. Unknown
0:39:40: Scenario 3: What to Take?: Dredge vs. Stax
0:56:03: Scenario 4: Focus on What Matters: Dredge Mirror
1:05:28: Scenario 5: Speed to Market: Doomsday Mirror
1:24:00: Scenario 6: Doomsday’s Necropotence: Doomsday vs. UWx Control
Total runtime: 1:36:57
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For episode 44, Geoff Moes (@ThallidTosser on Twitter), Nat Moes (@GrandpaBelcher), and Josh Chapple (@joshchapple) join David P. Baum, longtime owner of a card and comic book store in Northern Ohio. He doesn’t have a personal Twitter account, but (Pop! the store has one, as well as a Facebook page and Discord, if you’re interested.

https://www.eternalcentral.com/serious-vintage-episode-44-the-dave-files-part-1-early-magic/

Here’s the timestamped table of contents for your listening ease and enjoyment:
02:29 – Dave Discovers the Magic
17:39 – The First “Grand Prix” and SandCon
32:18 – Origins 1995
Total runtime – 45:39

As just a taste of the content, here's one of the first things we talk about: Dave gets his first boxes of Unlimited from a sports card dealer and sells them at a little sports card convention without knowing what they are. He opens some starters and “auctions” some singles, including Demonic Tutor. Did he sell a Black Lotus?

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    I highly doubt people will actually pay 17-19 lives for this on turn 1. You'd need a god draw with 3-4 mana floating after the wheel to have a somewhat reliable kill. If you don't win that turn, you're pretty much dead to anything.

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    @fsecco I think you mean, “if you are on the play and you fetch, your opponent can guarantee you will lose the bid”.

    Opponent might not want to exercise that guarantee because he does not want to forfeit the ability to activate fetchlands or to cast FoW/Misstep/etc. after the wheel.

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  • @joshuabrooks said in [CMR] Jeweled Lotus:

    I think they would because many commander players don’t have $200-$600 for duals and never will.

    Again, that does not work. If they backdoored dual lands like this all it would do would be add another dual. The ideal manabase for that deck would likely still want the original dual and the new one and cut something else like a shock land.

    Maybe in a 4 color deck where you don't have room for 2 of each it helps solve a problem, but 2 color decks are sure going to want a second matching true dual.

    I honestly think just banning every reserve list card in that format would be a better option than trying to patch it, and that way wotc wouldn't have to print replacements because they are not trying to fix a market problem.

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  • You control the card which the replacement effects affect, so you choose.

    EDIT: Evouga cited the more complicated path to that conclusion. It's quite clear in 616.1:

    616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected object’s controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply, following the steps listed below. If two or more players have to make these choices at the same time, choices are made in APNAP order (see rule 101.4).

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