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  The Mana Drain user changes
  • VintageFamiliar

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  I also realize this is an old thread, but since it's stickied I'm going to post here anyway.

  My old username on TMD was JDawg13, and I was a fairly active member in the early-mid 2000s. I sold off my whole Magic collection in 2007. Most of my Magic playing these days is draft and cube, but I have recently started thinking about getting back into paper Vintage after dabbling a bit on MTGO. This new username is the same one I use everywhere online.

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  MTGO Vintage players contact info
  • garbageaggro

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  rifter2001, I just started in vintage on mtgo but I have a saheeli oath deck. Mountain time for my time zone

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  Magic the pulse
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  @BazaarOfBaghdad I don't want to reward anyone. I'm fine with competitive environments rewarding people who study. If their study is 4th rate... then I assume there are three levels of study that would be rewarded more. So I don't think the 4th rate studiers are really going to be the problem either way. If you mean that study itself is low on the hierarchy of skills by which winning is decided... then why even worry about it right? Anyway, I'm pretty sure all of the best players do this to some extent. (Largely because I observe very good players who stream actually do it.)

  A person started a thread asking for information on how to scout magic players and decks. They asked on a website dedicated to sharing information about magic. I have no problem with that. Some people in the thread responded by criticizing scouting itself, which is fine too. But let me say that I'm fine with scouting, because it rewards people who do extra work and want to win. Every other competitive environment that I know of, already does that. I don't see why MTG should, or even could easily be different.

  I think the short answer to your question is yes... yes I do.

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  Assistance in collecting data for the new MTGO Vintage Challenges
  mtgo p9 mtgo metagame report • • diophan

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  @desolutionist I believe mtggoldfish had a bot to scrape data from all the events, so it's definitely possible. It's not like MTGO has an API to pull this data from though so I never seriously considered attempting to automate this. It would certainly be great if someone wants to look into this route.

  As a less daunting task, someone could figure out how to take a screengrab of the results from every round and convert it into text that's easier to work with. Several of us tried to figure out a way to do this over a year ago, but after minimal effort led to incomplete results we gave up. It's much easier to do metagame analyses for paper events because I just open the .WER file in notepad and parse the results.

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  Some of my unique stolen cards have been recovered. :)
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  I followed up investigation by going to Davis PD, and an officer met me at the shop in Davis where cards were found. He was as helpful as he could be without say, helping. (He is not sure that the cards can be proven to be unique as there are no serial numbers etc. )
  So I will have to find the seller of my cards myself. I'm thinking of making a fun video (since I have a studio and jump at any chance to use it) to get the seller to come to me.
  Now I have to go to work, but I thought I'd leave this update here in case there is a better plan that what I have come up with.
  List of cards with detail are on my Google Doc, I will post in all the FB sites where Magic happens in NorCal, personally contact each store to let them know how to find list of cards in case they got any of them at their store. Make video to get seller to come to me.
  THEN hand off to police.

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  mtgo price list?...at the tail of the curve?
  • Morbid Spec

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  Scryfall.com has pretty good price data and searching.

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  Proxies for High Level Vintage
  • mtgGreg

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  @revengeanceful I use a lighter piece of cardstock that I have printed a alignment grid on to and tape the card on using painters tape. DO NOT USE PLASTIC TAPE! It will more than likely melt on the fuser.

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  Set of Power 9
  • NosferatuStuff

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  @NosferatuStuff graciously returned the set of power last week. Would happily share MTGO cards with him again in the future.

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  Mathematical analysis of the metagame (you be the DCI)
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  @evouga exactly! This is the right sort of question to be asking. But does anyone think about the math problem like this? Or build in this way? Or even select in this way when looking at what to play. I can tell you people largely don't because there is not an elastic change in what people play, based on metagame population shifts.

  @ChubbyRain I promise you I'm not. The hypothetical 20 player tourney was taken straight from top 8 finish percentages. You will likely get slightly more rogueiness in a live field, but not much. Maybe you play 1 to .5 rogue decks more than that hypothetical field. What I am assuming, is that people would like to stroll into their actual tourney on Saturday and cash. (A big assumption. Some people don't and will tell you they don't care, which is cool.) So to do that, you should look at your actual metagame and beat that, rather than the overall metagame where you "get crushed" if you mainboard shops hate... something I don't believe anyway.

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  Yawgmoth's (Bargain Not Will) Unrestrictable?
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  @Topical_Island Because I don't want to get in a situation where I'd have to choose between rod and zuran orb or get in a situation where i cant combo off because i deployed a null rod earlier in the game. Add to that the fact that zuran orb does effectively nothing unless you have the other two pieces, it's a dead draw in a deck that already has considerable consistency/opening hand issues. Glacial chasm is a much better option seeing as it has synergy with crucible and can buy you crucial turns against decks like dredge, mentor or in thorn mirrors on it's own. You can also go ham with bazaar digging for it without having to worry about keeping a card in your hand and recur it with crucible, meanwhile it is nearly impossible to interact with. It has none of the problems zuran orb suffers from and has considerable upside.

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  Online stores
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  @jester said in Online stores:

  Also, I'm adding TrollandToad to the list. I'm considering my next purchase from them.

  Troll and Toad has been gotten a lot of flak for cancelling orders on people. Going further back in the post history, you'll see this is not a new development. I avoid them.

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  Eternal Weekend 2016 Report
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  What do you want from vintage.
  • Winterstar

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  Minimal restrictions
  Maximum community involvement
  Stories and revels for all!

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  Buying Power
  • mtgGreg

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  Though i also recommend starting with Lotus, this is the order in which i acquired power:
  Ruby > Recall > Sapphire > Time Walk > Lotus > Emerald > Jet > tbc..... still missing Pearl and Twister.
  If you got a good offer (like i did) you are good to buy other pieces of power before Lotus ;)

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  MTGO hits record high players, while VM Black Lotus hits record low price. Strange
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  They increased the incidence of Power in Treasure Chests from 1 to 6 with the recent update.

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  April 24th, 2017 Banned and Restricted update: GUSH AND PROBE/TOP in Legacy
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  Truly more people should be publicly shamed and flogged for consorting with the ruinous powers of Mishra. It is simply horrendously unethical to play Spheres in your 75.

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  New YouTube Channel dedicated to Vintage
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  My take on the 4/17 B&R update: https://youtu.be/SUCUmJ5h9Qw

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  Any vintage/old school/legacy in San Luis Obispo?
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  Restricted List Poll
  • vaughnbros

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  @Topical_Island said in Restricted List Poll:

  @vaughnbros Restrict every card. One of everything!

  I will say that highlander is a really fun format to play. I loved it when my friends and I played it before cube became popular (though to be honest, not a lot of difference between highlander and powered cube).

  Highlander is less skill intensive I think (aside from deckbuilding) than Vintage, but such a deep card pool. Only issue I had was the lack of 4 wastelands makes LIbrary of Alexandria a little ridiculous.

  If you're looking for a fun night, give it a try. Love the format!

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  Vintage Leagues 'coming' to MTGO
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  @diophan said in Vintage Leagues 'coming' to MTGO:

  @thecravenone The more important question is: why are you drinking that light colored beer if you can get KBS for $3/pint?

  That's what @aniso said!

  I didn't notice they had KBS until my Pussy Wagon was half-poured. Rest assured, I switched to KBS afterward.