@vcf said in Drawing 14 - Vintage Champs 2018 Top 8 - 8th Place with "Grixis Thieves" or as I like to call it: Ocean's 75 by George Clooney:
happy to see so top scores and naming me 😍
Congrats!
I took some months ago Moatzu's list and changed abrade for goblin.
I'm also starting testing -4leyline, dredge has a lot of issues for it. Did you considered Yixlid Jailer?
I will also will test Tezzeret.
The thing i'm not super fan is 4 notion. How many times did you resolve drawing 14 in 11 rounds?
Thanks for the report and congrats again for your performance!
Thanks! Yes, I also took a look at Moatzu's lists too from online.
Yes, I have also considered Yixlid Jailer and love the card, as it can also clock dredge as hate piece. Not having played vintage in a year, I just took my dredge buddy's advice and played the 4x tormod's crypt.
Tezzeret was great, essentially a 1 card combo for vault-tezz infinite turns over 2 turns, or redundant vault-key piece.
The 4x notion thief may not be correct or optimal, but I was sure as heck gonna just jam it with draw 7s. I drew 14 4 or 5 times in the 11 rounds, but versus shops (3 of the rounds), you board out a lot of the combo pieces, so those rounds don't really count. I attempted to draw 14 4-5 other times, but was disrupted, twice in the top 8. So it isn't a hard thing to do. Most of the time, the notion thief is a must answer flash threat for blue decks so they have to trade counters/resources on it. Then there's the 2nd and or 3rd thief. Eventually, I trade resources off and easily set up vault-key for the win. I found notion thief to be more impressive than JTMS, due to it having flash. And it won beating for 3 a lot too. But yes, 4x notion thief may not be optimal. But my plan for the weekend was to have fun and try to draw 14. The top 8 was a cool side effect of it all 😃