Some of this sounds like deck construction. Why are you playing all these cards you need to play turn 1 along with Wasteland?
I agree with most which has been said in this thread, but I think this quote is particularly important. You've got to ask yourself why you're playing Wastelands in your deck. Is it to play a mana denial strategy? In some cases (combined with Stony Silence) it can be, but against Shops it's almost never correct to do so. And usually when playing a build like this it's not to deploy a mana denial strategy. It's often not even to make a tempo play but to hit critical lands; I usually see Wastelands as additional Strip Mines which many decks play as a one-of to hit an important land like Karakas, Tolarian Academy, Library of Alexandria or Cavern of Souls.
For what's it's worth, I wouldn't have Wasted in either scenario (and I 100% agree with BrassMan to let Thorn resolve in scenario 1).
We all had a really great time at this event! Unfortunately we didn't get any new players, but we will all carry on working on that going forwards. I'll be publishing the decklists on mtggoldfish as soon as I get them from those who participated.
Andy, I was wondering if you could use you're heavy weight status as TMD owner to talk to SCG and see if you can gain access to the old Vintage boards from their site. TMD was obviously better than SCG, but there is still some good stuff on there, like the "pimp proxy" thread as well as a lot of strategic discussion.
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